[After someone points out that speaking in tongues is a social/psychological anamoly.]
I speak in tongues all the time in my church, the spirit fills me and then I shout prophecies and praises to JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not a psychological analomy, It's 100% Jesus.
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Good idea, let's chuck that Christian soulja.
I defy anyone to prove that "speaking in tongues" is anything but excited Xians trying to get a little attention from their fellow Xians by showing them how "spirit-filled" they are.
I would be interested to see an unbiased study of the accuracy of CCS's prophecies. Of course, with Jesus in all caps and 18 exclamation points I'm sure they're pretty darn good.
Actually, it IS a psychological anomaly (or, rather, clear evidence of psychological problems). And you say it is proof of Jesus? That's rather a mean thing to say about a guy whose work you're trying to support, isn't it?
~David D.G.
I speak in tongues all the time in my church
Yes, yes, and the other patients in the "church" are self-admitted... So please keep it down, lest we start losing revenue.
Chuck, you realize the "speaking in tongues" of the Bible was actually speaking such that all heard the words in their native language, not incoherent babble, correct? (See Acts 2:4-6.)
HAH--cute, Julian.
mad dog: I've seen two people go into speaking in tongues in public. Their eyes roll back in their heads, they scream "A-sha-na-na-na-na-na" and convulse around like they have a chicken on their back. It's like a really noisy seizure. Probably too much lead in their diet.
I have always been fascinated by glossiana. In Acts, the "speaking in tongues" is described as a miracle where everyone could understand everything the apostles were saying, even if they didn't speak Aramaic. How the hell did we get from "Everyone can understand everything," to the current practice of shouting gibberish that NO ONE can understand, not even the person DOING IT?
On a more serious note, I taught a young man when I was teaching High School in southern Illinois who had a father who would put him on severe punnishment if he didn't speak in tongues at church every Sunday. Eventually the young man got sick of the constant persecution and belittlement by his father, dropped out of school, and joined the army. He hates his father, he hates religion and god, and he does a pretty good job of hating himself, too. Damn fundie parents...
exactly what I'm talking about, Sandman. In fact, I feel like repeating my older post:
"The Pentocostal Church is a bunch of charlatans and liars who are scared and intimidated into pretending to speak some wierd foreign language."
When I eat chili, I speak in 'bungs'. Yeah, the Mexican Spirit fills me and then my butt shouts prophesies like, "Better clear the bathroom!" or, "Nobody better go in there for 35, to 45 minutes!"
BTW, Chuck and Penetrating Shaft, please limit your use of punctuation to one exclamation point or question mark per sentence. We thank you for not scream/typing.
*In Acts, the "speaking in tongues" is described as a miracle where everyone could understand everything the apostles were saying, even if they didn't speak Aramaic.
That's the LDS viewpoint on Speaking in Tongues. It means that a person has been given the ability to either learn a new language in an unusually short period of time, or to speak a language they previously did not know. Either way, it requires both parties in the conversation to know what is being said.
Which some people claim to have but they don't. They could be motivated to do this for a variety of reasons. Some churches erroneously believe that speaking in tongues is evidence of your salvation. I think this is where the pressure to make up the babble comes from. When you hear bable like "shamalamalababana", it's obvious that's fundie babble. When you hear "Janiste prete fragaccio uom donate fre te veraggio uondule te valiche uom duo", that's speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia. The purpose of speaking in tongues is to edify (spiritually strengthen) the speaker and hearer. It is not true that the speaker always speaks in a known language. For two reasons, 1. They may be speaking an angelic language (If I speak with the tongue of men and of angels...1 Corinthians) 2. They may be speaking an archaic language for which there are no living speakers. I think that is the case with me. I think the glossolalia I gave you above is a combination of a romance language (Latin, Romanian, etc.) a Nordic language (Swedish, Finnish, etc.) and an Arabic language. I have spent hours phonetically spelling my language and looking up the individual words and translating them.
Which some people claim to have but the don't. When you hear bable like shamalamalababana, it's obvious that's fundie bable. When you hear Janiste prete fragaccio uom donate fre te veraggio uondule te valiche uom duo, that's speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia.
Which some people claim to have but the don't. When you hear bable like shamalamalababana, it's obvious that's fundie bable. When you hear Janiste prete fragaccio uom donate fre te veraggio uondule te valiche uom duo, that's speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia.
<<< It is not true that the speaker always speaks in a known language. >>>
Try reading the story of Pentecost in your Bible (Acts 2:4-6 in particular). You will note that "speaking in tongues" was not meant as "speaking in a language the person never learned" - it was speaking such that everyone heard the words in their own native language. The incoherent babbling you hear in fundie churches is either a seizure or someone faking it, because it sure as hell doesn't match any biblical description of "speaking in tongues".
Former Pentecostal fundie here, I confess that I’ve participated in “speaking in tongues.” From my experience (and my experience only) I don’t think it is faked or a seizure per say, but rather a self induced hypnotic state, made easer by the presence of others in the same heightened state. It is gibberish and if you listen to an individual do it enough times the same person does it pretty much the same way every time. As a kid we would make fun of the adults by imitating them in their speaking in tongues state and we could usually imitate their particular gibberish pattern. I’m no linguist but I’m pretty sure I could pick out a regular pattern that a real language would have and I don’t believe I ever witnessed a real language being spoken in any of these sessions. Obviously I can’t speak for anyone else and many could have been faking, I can only assure you that I didn’t, which is why I believe it was hypnosis.
I used to speak in tongues as a Christian. Funny thing, is that I still can. I scared the hell out of wife once doing it. There are two reasons why it happens: 1. it is a psychological trick, a learned technique. Because everyone else in church is doing it, I should too, 2. it's a charlatan's trick.
Way back when I was a fundie, I faked it so I could get hugs and cop a feel off a hot girl !!
I continued to fake it after that...man they are sooo guillable
Does an 'analomy' taste like a shitty abalone?
It's anomalous only in the sense that you are using the 'epileptic seizure' part of your brain for your philosophy of life.
So JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is half wishful thinking and half grand mal.
Darwin: Maybe not, but it seems most of his followers are.
I always thought "speaking in tongues" was a form of fundie attention whoring - "Look at how holy I am!"
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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