Actually, it's your ilk that have the agenda dear...both the MYTH of evolution and the MYTH of global warming will be used to implement EUGENICS. A concept thought up by darwin's cousin...big surprise!
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Haaah?
Global warming used to implement eugenics...HOW?!
"Decades of study have proven that global temperatures are increasing. Therefore, we're going to implement a long-debunked pseudoscience."
Also, the theory of evolution goes against eugenics.
I think hes talking about Sir Francis Galton, who yes was Darwin's cousin and coined the term Eugenics after Darwin's death. The theories of Natural Selection and Eugenics are not the same thing however, who knows how Global Warming fits into the mix.
We have observed evolution in action, we have observed global mean surface temperatures increasing. They're not myths when you can actually see them happening.
And eugenics is practised in the bible, remember Genesis 6-8? Francis Galton merely gave it it's modern name.
The problem with the assertion that evolution gives justification for eugenics is that the only parts of evolution that could possibly be interpreted as justifying eugenics are the parts that even creationists accept.
The argument for eugenics does not come from common ancestry or from macro-evolution, but from a distortion of what natural selection and the struggle for existence entail, both of which even Ken Ham accepts.
So if you are worried about eugenics becoming acceptable practice, what you really should be arguing against are the very existence of genes, the existence of natural selection even as a force for "micro-evolution", and for the existence of a struggle for existence, all of which you also accept.
Even so, eugenics is recognised as a barbaric intrusion on personal freedoms and fundamentally incapable of producing the supposed benefits that it purports to yield. Almost all people who accept evolution understand and accept these things and are more opposed to eugenics than the fundies, who appear to be a mere sliver of a realisation away from deciding to implement it themselves.
In fact, eugenics has been implemented by the religious for centuries. The insane were though to be "possessed by demons" and fit for nothing more than exorcism and burning, marriage outside one's creed what thought to contaminate the offspring and people who committed even minor crimes were either locked up indefinitely, killed outright or mutilated beyond the capacity for reproduction anyway.
"both the MYTH of evolution and the MYTH of global warming will be used to implement EUGENICS."
Um, no they won't. And random capitalization of words doesn't make you right.
So if my cousin is a crazy-assed fundie, that makes me a crazy-assed fundie?
Aren't you taking this guilty by association thing a bit too far?
"...EUGENICS. A concept thought up by darwin's cousin...big surprise!"
So what? My mum's cousin (or it might have been a 2nd cousin, can't remember) was hanged for murder. You know what that has to do with my mum and her values? Fuck all, that's what.
BTW my mum's cousin (or posibly 2nd cousin) was John Norman Thorne - better known as Norman Thorne. His case was relatively famous at the time. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle even wrote a letter to The Times about it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/17/law.forensicscience - last paragraph.
What does global warming have to do with eugenics? What does cutting back on dumping CO2 into the air have to do with who reproduces? What does evolution have to do with eugenics? Evolution is just a description of what happens; not a formula for what should happen. Eugenics is based on the principles of animal breeding, which were around centuries before Darwin.
@Katsuro
BTW my mum's cousin (or posibly 2nd cousin) was John Norman Thorne - better known as Norman Thorne. His case was relatively famous at the time. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle even wrote a letter to The Times about it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/17/law.forensicscience - last paragraph.
Given that the year of his death was 1915, I suspect he was your mother's first cousin, twice removed (that is, the nephew of your mother's grandparents).
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If you and your fundie ilk had to prove your fitness to survive, you'd never manage it... dear.
Gods, I loathe strangers who call me by insincere endearments. You haven't got the right to call me "dear", asshole.
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