No, they didn't just call someone baldy - did you actually read the passage in the Bible or are you using a comic strip as your source material?
There were mocking a prophet of G_d and that act carries with it a very huge cost. If you'd care to actually read the passage they were challenging his authority - kids old enough to challenge authority are old enough to suffer the consequences of that challenge.
What happens when a child challenges the law of gravity by walking off a cliff?
What happens when a child challenges the authority of his parent and plays out in the street?
What happens when a child challenges the authority of the law and does Cocaine?
In those three examples do the consequences adjust themselves to the age of the child?
As it turns out, in the REAL WORLD - that place were your body is but your mind isn't - in the REAL WORLD when a child challenges authority that child often dies. As it turns out, a trampoline doesn't appear at the bottom of a cliff, a car doesn't turn to foam rubber, and Cocaine doesn't turn to powdered sugar just because the child is less than 18 years old.
You accept the rules of the natural world as operating the same regardless of age but you refuse to grant G_d the same power you'd give Cocaine. Sorry, patty, but the Bible is about revealing G_d the way He is, and as it turns out He is very dangerous.
29 comments
The first two paragraphs are a repeat of the quote from September 9th. The rest is new.
The consequences of the actions Meh_Gerbil describes are measurable immediately as a direct consequence. They are also repeatable with the same consequences. So what you're saying, Meh_Gerbil, is if we mock someone who claims to be a prophet of God, and we are not immediately mauled by two bears, we know that the person concerned is no such prophet?
The difference, dude, is that cliffs, streets and cocaine aren't said to be omnipotent and omnibenevolent.
And how'd they know he was a "prophet of g_d"? Was he wearing a large neon sign?
And sure, killing 42 kids in an especially brutal, painful, and horrifying way for challenging authority sounds fair, loving, merciful, and reasonable especially when you consider the same book says to stone them to death for disobedience.
And if your precious g_d created everything and knew everything that was going to happen before he created them, he created these 42 kids just so he could watch them get mauled to death by bears? And this g_d "loves children"?
There's proof that law of gravity is real.
There's proof that parents are real.
There's proof that law is real.
There's no proof that God is real.
How is calling a prophet of God baldy equal to challenging the authority of either that prophet or God?
But, those consequences are direct consequences of those actions, they are not punishments from a professed benign deity. Bear mauling doesn't follow automatically from mocking authority, but falling to your death follows automatically from stepping off a cliff.
As there is no evidence for any gods in the natural world, we refuse to grant power to any gods, yes. Cocaine isn't an entity with power, stupid, it's just a chemical substance that is toxic and hallucinogenic.
My God is awesome and full of love. Now I will explain why he has bears maul children for teasing somebody.
How is it possible to live an entire life without ever pausing to consider things? seriously, if you ever find yourself in the "pro bears eating children" camp, how is it not possible to see it for total bullshit.
The real world doesn't wantonly slaughter children for challenging authority, you goddamn psychopath! Do kids die? Yes! Can the world be unfair like that? Yes! But it's hardly as petty, unforgiving and thin-skinned as your god!
You accept the rules of the natural world as operating the same regardless of age but you refuse to grant G_d the same power you'd give Cocaine.
So you're saying that God is just a mechanical force like gravity - push button A and He does one thing; push button B He does another without any moral decision process?
Q: And what happens when a child challenges a slaphead woo-meister?
A: Death by bear.
Or, how Bible God is revealed as a savage monster by wishful thinking bronze age psychopaths writing fap fiction.
What happens when a child challenges the law of gravity by walking off a cliff?
What happens when a child challenges the authority of his parent and plays out in the street?
What happens when a child challenges the authority of the law and does Cocaine?
They get mauled by bears?[/sarcasm]
Sending bears to maul children is not an immediate consequence to an action, but rather it is the act of a tyrant who is not worthy of being called anything but evil.
How is it possible to live an entire life without ever pausing to consider things? seriously, if you ever find yourself in the "pro bears eating children" camp, how is it not possible to see it for total bullshit.
Because Meh_Gerbil (and Darth Executor in the same thread) is a right-wing authoritarian. RWA thinking is highly, rigidly compartmentalized--they hold many mutually-contradictory ideas, but those ideas are each more or less confined to their own space and never actually come into direct contact with each other, allowing them to hold and believe both views simultaneously. As a result, Meh_Gerbil is able to hold both beliefs--that God is both infinitely loving and full of mercy and compassion, and that that same God is also dangerous, deadly, angers at the slightest provocation, and commits atrocities on the slightest of whims--and can't or won't see any inherent contradiction.
Link
Interesting how many so-called "prophets of God" have been mocked on this very site, and not a one of us has been attacked by carnivorous woodland creatures as a direct result.
I guess Meh_Gerbil's god is losing his touch.
This is like the fifth post from Meh on this topic I've seen now but this one points out a trait with Fundies.
They claim they praise and worship God, not men, yet they raise the men as high a level as God. They worship ordinary mortal and sometimes bald men. They worshipped W Bush in this same manner, remember, he was also NEVER to be mocked or questioned, nor their right-wing Christian leaders, nor their pastors.
Dead on target with the sermon I heard yesterday(joy of having a believing wife).
Speech was : The father is just. He loves us, but also punishes us when we misbehave. Fairly. And we HAVE to obey, whatever order he gives.
That's the trap : it teaches you to obey authority. Whatever it is, wether it is just , legitimate, & moral.
OK so explain to me why I'd want to worship a god which deliberately kills children by having them mauled by bears?
One thing people never seem to be able to explain is why this vengeful god is worthy of worship. Whenever they bring out this "love God or else he'll do terrible things to you," it's like they claim to worship out of love, but want everyone else to worship out of fear.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.