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I just know some atheist is going to mention

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Allow me to answer this in advance. When a virgin is raped she is no longer pure and thus her chances for marriage are greatly diminished. God provides for the woman who has become impure due to rape. Since no else will want to marry her, God commands that her attacker marry her and pay her family a tidy sum.

The man who rapes a virgin has clearly shown an interest in the woman and so forcing him to marry her doesn't cause him too much distress on him and lessens the chance the marriage will be a really bad existence for the woman. Making the attacker pay her family a tidy sum helps the family out and in this way the girl helps her family out. So, instead of the woman being considered defiled and an outcast the family can embrace her. She gets a husband and the family gets money. God setup rules to help even the lowly out.

God has a plan for each of us and we just need to seek Him to find out what His plan is.

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old comment by Boy Wonder

"The man who rapes a virgin has clearly shown an interest in the woman and so forcing him to marry her doesn't cause him too much distress on him and lessens the chance the marriage will be a really bad existence for the woman."

Uh... no he hasn't. He's shown that he wishes to do violent, humiliating things to her, so marrying her to him is probably the worst imaginable solution.

"So, instead of the woman being considered defiled and an outcast the family can embrace her."

I've never known anyone to treat anyone else as "defiled" or some such thing because they were raped. The victim's family should embrace the victim regardless. Why would a rape, something beyond the victim's control, make the victim's own family turn their backs?

I think Ray lives on a completely different planet.

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When a virgin is raped she is no longer pure and thus her chances for marriage are greatly diminished. God provides for the woman who has become impure due to rape. Since no else will want to marry her, God commands that her attacker marry her and pay her family a tidy sum.

Translation: Blah blah sexist bullshit blah.

The man who rapes a virgin has clearly shown an interest in the woman and so forcing him to marry her doesn't cause him too much distress on him and lessens the chance the marriage will be a really bad existence for the woman.

What the fuck? Do you even understand what rape is? It is NOT showing love to a woman. It is a VIOLENT ACT. Marrying someone who fucking ATTACKED her would obviously make the marriage "a really bad existence" for the woman, you fucking douchenozzle.

I really think you do not understand the concept that a woman is also a human being, not a fucking commodity.

old comment by clockworkgirl21

I just know some atheist is going to mention

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Yep. Because it proves how messed up your belief system is.

Allow me to answer this in advance. When a virgin is raped she is no longer pure and thus her chances for marriage are greatly diminished. God provides for the woman who has become impure due to rape. Since no else will want to marry her, God commands that her attacker marry her and pay her family a tidy sum.

But she's only considered impure because of your religion in the first place. And what kind of life would she have with her rapist? He doesn't love her, and she doesn't love him.

The man who rapes a virgin has clearly shown an interest in the woman and so forcing him to marry her doesn't cause him too much distress on him and lessens the chance the marriage will be a really bad existence for the woman.

Ah, so he rapes her when he likes her, instead of asking her out?

Making the attacker pay her family a tidy sum helps the family out and in this way the girl helps her family out. So, instead of the woman being considered defiled and an outcast the family can embrace her. She gets a husband and the family gets money. God setup rules to help even the lowly out.

Why doesn't God punish the rapist, then tell everyone the woman isn't at all to blame, and tell them she's still worth marrying just because she's a human being, unless she proves otherwise?

God has a plan for each of us and we just need to seek Him to find out what His plan is.

Why do God's plans always screw the woman?

Oh, it's a poe? Well, people do believe this sort of thing for real, so the argument still stands.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"I just know some atheist is going to mention

Deuteronomy 22:28-29"

Oh, that's nothing Y=X. Your so-called 'God' even condones & orders abortions to take place:

Hosea 13:16: 'Samaria will be held guilty, For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword, Their little ones will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open.'

God aborted the first baby born to David through Bathsheba too. And there must've been hundreds of thousands of pregnant women drowned in the flood. What did their unborn babies do to deserve death? And during the plagues in Egypt, hundreds if not thousands of pregnant women must've miscarried as a result?

Never mind condonging rape, your 'God' is the worst abortionist in human history. And we're supposed to 'worship' this monster? Now you know why Atheism exists. And why it is superior to Fundamentalist Christianity in every way.

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When a virgin is raped she is no longer pure...

But that's not her fault. Oh wait, in FundieWorld, it is her fault for dressing immodestly, being brazen, walking down a dark alley...

...and thus her chances for marriage are greatly diminished.

But that's your opinion of her reduced worth. If that's all you focus on, then you are a sad excuse for a human being.

Since no else will want to marry her...

Remember what I said about your opinions?

The man who rapes a virgin has clearly shown an interest in the woman...

...because clearly she walks around with a "V" on her forehead to conveniently identify herself to would-be rapists.

forcing him to marry her doesn't cause him too much distress on him

Well, yeah, the rape shouldn't cause him any distress by having to marry his victim. No, we could never allow that. [/sarcasm]

lessens the chance the marriage will be a really bad existence for the woman.

This is coming from a man: if I were forced to marry my rapist it would only be to kill him while he slept. Period.

instead of the woman being considered defiled and an outcast

The only ones who consider a rape victim defiled and an outcast are assholes exactly like you.

old comment by Slightly Religious

A little-known fact about language: it usually doesn't translate well into English. It is rather easy to take the Latin "rapio" and translate "rape," but that is not the entire meaning. "Rapio" means "take as one's own," a rather nonsexual action, unlike the action attached to "rape" today. "Rapio" was a key part of a Roman (and American) marriage, as the wife left her family for the husband's.

So a man may take a woman as his own (engagement), pay the silver (a "dowry" if you are unfamiliar) and keep the wife (say "I do"). It is basically a marriage. The sex involved then is premarital yet consensual. You may disregard this as blasphemy for trying to change the exact words of the Bible as they appear in English, but realize that to get there, the Bible took two (maybe three) translations up the rear, and each version of the passage has connotations that are lost in translation.

As for everyone else, nothing to see here: the passage itself is a mistranslation and therefore makes Y=X,AC's point lacking evidence that actually works to his favor.