On the trip to the moon, they were so concerned that there might be some type of bacteria life on the moon. They spent extra money to isolate the moon-rocks when they got them in the spacecraft, and when they got them back on earth. They will do the same with all the other planets. They will say, "Oh, there might be life there. We need to protect those rocks." One of the astronauts offered to eat some of the moon dust on the way back to prove that there was no life on it and that it was perfectly sterile. Bring back a Mars rock or a Jupiter rock, I'll eat it or lick it . Life doesn't evolve. [Emphasis added]
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How does that last sentence follow from the rest? Unless I'm missing context.
And this is supposed to be a 'Ph.D dissertation'? With that kind of language? Wow, even grade school kids are pointing and laughing at Hovind.
You do know that Dr Dino is in Jail where he belongs, right? You do know that his "PhD" was from some mail order "University" located in a mobile home in the sticks, right? You do know that astronauts like to crack jokes, right? No? Then just how fucking stupid are you?
Good luck with the Jupiter rocks, there.
Point of note, just because its inorganic, doesn't mean its not toxic. I can think of a couple of chemicals off the top of my head that'd kill you faster than you'd care to think.
This is seriously Hovind's PhD?! It looks like it was written by a fourteen year old. If I didn't know where he got it from, I'd seriously think he failed and just says he got a doctorate.
There are no rocks on Jupiter. It's a gas giant. Oh, but I'd think that someone with a PhD would know that...
And exactly how does the fact that there's no life (as we know it) in the vacuum of space prove that there's no evolution on earth?
A "Jupiter rock"?? Jupiter doesn't have rocks, you dolt.
Seriously, y'know, if you bothered to proofread this thing, you may have caught glaring errors like that. Then again, considering where you got your Ph.D. from, you probably didn't care and neither did they.
Just for you, I hope they bring back a mineral containing lead (like galena, mercury (cinnabar is the only one I know of), or arsenic (realgar or any of the arsenides). Maybe even something radioactive, like uraninite, autunite, or monazite. How about something with asbestos, like chrysotile, pectolite, or tremolite?
"One of the astronauts offered to eat some of the moon dust on the way back to prove that there was no life on it and that it was perfectly sterile."
Have a citation for that, or did you pull it out of your ass like everything else?
I don't understand Kent's point here.
He's saying that becuase of the concern of there maybe being microbial life on the moon, they isolated the samples. This is true, but they didn't do it to "protect those rocks" they did it to protect PEOPLE from what could possibly be extra-terrestrial diseases.
His anecdode about the astronaut offering to eat moon dust is most likely pulled from the same place Kent pulls all of the rest of his nonsese. Straight out of his ass.
Lastly....what does this have to do with evolution? So there's no life on the moon....what does this mean? It meanst here is no life on the moon. It doesn't mean that life on EARTH did not evolve. Of cousre once again "Doctor" Hovind has no idea that there's any difference between evolution and biogenesis.
This thesis is just the most incredible event horizon of stupidity. Any forgery or parody would have been far less humiliating.
FSTDT could just be every line individually submitted for the next month.
How come this PhD has poorer grasp of the English language than a Swedish woman who only studied the language for 12 years pre-college?
It would be totally impossible for a Swedish PhD, in any field, to be this ignorant of basic biology and astronomy. He or she would have learned this kind of stuff in third grade.
"is that how you explain the biology of the human species or even the ever expanding GALAXY for that matter? Stupid fucking religious people. I wish we could kill them all in a mass genocide."
Great idea, nothing says more about the ability of your ideas to stand on their own merits than killing the opposition.
People like you need to grow the fuck up, and not just offhandedly suggest the slaughter of most of the people on this planet. Truly ashamed to have this comment and others like it come from people on 'my side'. It's not cute, it's not funny, and it does a lot to hurt what you're trying to advance.
Jupiter is mostly made of gas, but astronomers believe it's core could be rocky. Of course, no astronauts are going to be traveling to the core of Jupiter anytime soon, so I guess it's a moot point.
I kinda want him to do this, and get infected with some horrible (but extremely hard to catch, in that you must ingest the organism) extraterrestrial illness. Not fatal, just... totally incurable, chronic and debilitating, with copious intestinal, er, "effects".
I don't think bacteria from other planets would be dangerous to us actually, our immune system destroys whatever it doesn't recognise as part of the body, and the only bacteria who can hurt us are the ones who evolved a way around it.
Quote is on pg. 74 of the pdf.
What immediately follows:
"There is no evidence for evolution and it wastes a lot of our money because they've got the wrong thinking. They thought the moon was millions of years old, so they put giant landing pads on the spacecraft. They wasted a lot of money because they thought the cosmic dust would be so deep on the moon. The cosmic dust layer indicated that the moon was only six or seven thousand years old. We will discuss this in further detail later in the book."
Honestly, close your eyes and scroll to any page of the document and you'll see monumental fail.
The early moon missions did have quarantine facilities set up for the astronauts when they returned. The isolation of the moon rocks was more to protect the rocks than to protect the people.
As for eating the moon dust... sheesh. Have you ever seen picture of the astronauts after they got back in the spacecraft? They were covered in the dust. The lunar lander and command module were filled with the stuff. Every single one of them was in close contact, breathing and more than likely, ingesting the stuff.
Of course, we know how that turned out. Fortunately, they managed to find an antidote before the ship docked, and America was spared the horror of a 50 foot tall rampaging Neil Armstrong teamed up with Buzz Aldrin's flaming fists of doom.
Buzz still gets that urge to punch people once in a while, though.
Edit:
The below troll seems to have stolen my name...
Nice.
Fuck your jesus with fifty feet of rusty iron fence.
I hope he licks a Jupiter rock. And I hope it is painful.
The horrendous quality of Kent Hovind's writing kind of makes my brain melt in the worst way possible. What kind of college accepts this? And what kind of college accepts Kent Hovind?
Uhhh..... by licking it you would contaminate it with your germs thereby rendering testing it useless.
Why do you people not understand this?
@ Night Jaguar
Thanks, that's been added to my favourites.
I can't imagine how these guys feel getting told their liars almost every day of their life.
I would bite a Mars bar.
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Ey, come on. That's spamming.
Why don't you guys post Kent's "Thesis" chapter by chapter and FSTDT is full by end of the week?
"On the trip to the moon, they were so concerned that there might be some type of bacteria life on the moon. They spent extra money to isolate the moon-rocks when they got them in the spacecraft, and when they got them back on earth"
"Bring back a Mars rock or a Jupiter rock, I'll eat it or lick it."
Okay, Kentypoos. I'm sure NASA would gladly employ a human guniea-pig for such a purpose.
PROTIP: But whatever you do, don't watch the film "The Andromeda Strain" beforehand.
Okay, I'm sure this has been said, but JUPITER?!
A FUCKING JUPITER ROCK?!?! THIS MAN HAS A FUCKING PHD?!?
WHY IN THE FLAMING NINJA CHRISTS NAME DID THIS MAN GET A PHD?!
Ince again Hovind gets it backward. The rocks were quarantined so that any organism that might exist, or poisonous dust , would not affect the astronauts , or the population of earth.
There was of course a concern that earth organisms might contaminate the samples and someone would get it wrong and say they found microbes.
I know I'm a little late to the conversation, but I will say this to those who said Jupiter doesn't have rocks.
There is a supposition, with some support, the Jupiter may have a solid hydrogen core. That the pressure on the hydrogen down there may be so great as to compress the molecules close enough to solidify it into metallic hydrogen, and that this is what creates the effect of the powerful magnetic field that Jupiter has. So, if true, it technically would have rocks.
Of course, if you were to retrieve a piece of this solid core and bring it up through the atmosphere, it would eventually reach a point where the pressure is no longer great enough to compress it, and it change state, most likely sublimating directly to gas. So, you're not getting rocks from it.
There are however other solids in the atmosphere, probably a few actual rocks, but most like made up primarily of various ices, that again would melt or sublimate in any conditions you'd be able to eat it. And as already mention, most probably highly toxic to humans. And let us not forget that which is also radioactive.
So, Kent was supposed to be a science teacher?
He doesn't understand about taking steps to not contaminate a sample?
Jeez, what a moron. If they ever construct a measurement system to actually determine stupidity, they could calibrate the scale in units of hovinds.
"Man, Trump's latest excuse for funding the space force was about 14 hovind's wrong."
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"Man, Trump's latest excuse for funding the space force was about 14 hovind's wrong."
Shouldn't that be "kilo-hovinds"?
Regards & all,
Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg
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