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When a man asked Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis, “Would you do this to an interracial couple?” she replied, “A man and a woman, no.”

The question was asked while the cameras were rolling because it is essential to their case that LGBT supporters convince the public that speaking against homosexuals, is similar to racism.

This is one of the reasons why "Audacity" is such an important movie. It shows that homosexuality is a choice, as is adultery, fornication and theft.

We don’t choose our skin color, but we do choose our sins--and for that we will be morally responsible to God.

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old comment by breakerslion

Being a sanctimonious asshole is a choice. It's a choice your own Christ told you was wrong.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Matthew 7:1-5 KJV

old comment by Jerry

FundieVision:

Can I tell you a little secret? I think I will anyway. You were NEVER a Christian. You were NEVER Saved. How do I know that? Because there is no such thing as ex-Christian! You cannot un-believe something, and you certainly cannot un-believe Jesus. 1 John 2:19 In Christianity, we call it the doctrine of Perseverance of the Saints.

You can also think of it this way: say you never seen an airplane, then you had to fly somewhere and you were on one, would you ever then claim that airplanes don't exist? Would ever say to someone that you "used to believe in airplanes, but not any more"? Just the same a Christian can NEVER become an ex-Christian.

You are depraved, sick, and filthy, and Jesus hates you. (Ps. 5:5, Rom. 1) But I have good news for you: it doesn't have to be this way! Even someone like you may be forgiven and Saved from all the filth, sickness, and depravity. All you got to do is believe in the true Jesus of the Christian Bible (not in the Catholic Jesus or the Mormon Jesus or any other false Jesus), repent of your sins, and ask Him into your heart and into your life, so that there is no sin, filth, or despair any more. Turn or burn, the choice is yours, and you alone are to blame for the consequences.

In the name of the Lord,
Jerry

old comment by tipsyGnostalgic

@Jerry:

Ex-Christians do exist. Walked away from my family and their batshit insane, intolerant Baptist church at sixteen after they tried to force me to break up with my boyfriend. Have been a faithful witch for the past five years, and will be for the forseeable future-- you see, all it takes is a cognizant realization that your god, little g, is a psychopath who doesn't deserve worship.

Isaiah 45:7.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

Matthew 10:34.
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Zephaniah 3:6-10.
""I have wiped out many nations, devastating their fortress walls and towers. Their cities are now deserted; their streets are in silent ruin. There are no survivors to even tell what happened. I thought, 'Surely they will have reverence for me now! Surely they will listen to my warnings, so I won't need to strike again.' But no; however much I punish them, they continue their evil practices from dawn till dusk and dusk till dawn." So now the LORD says: "Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy. "On that day I will purify the lips of all people, so that everyone will be able to worship the LORD together. My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings."

Your god, little g, is a psychopath. If this were a horror anime, he'd be the yandere love interest that keeps killing everything that the protagonist is interested in. He is the George W. Bush of deities; "kill and imprison everything that doesn't see my way, and then we'll talk", he is an anathema.

And he far from deserves worship. He deserves to be put to the sword, his "scriptures" cast into the fire, and purged from the genetic memory of our species entirely.

And you are nothing but a sanctimonious little twit.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"We don’t choose our skin color, but we do choose our sins--and for that we will be morally responsible to God."

Two words, Ray Cumfart: Michael Jackson.

NEXT!

@Jerry

"You can also think of it this way: say you never seen an airplane, then you had to fly somewhere and you were on one, would you ever then claim that airplanes don't exist? Would ever say to someone that you "used to believe in airplanes, but not any more"? Just the same a Christian can NEVER become an ex-Christian."

(*Switches to hyper-smartarse mode*)

Ekranoplans:

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Cannot fly, therefore it isn't an aircraft, but it travels above water, therefore it isn't a ship.

It is Schrodinger's Cat in transportational form: it cannot exist in one form, nor the other, but it exists.

But it can be seen. Like a rainbow can be seen - the basis of the Scientific Method: Observation - yet it doesn't exist physically. Therefore the concept of the 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural' is destroyed, your 'God' doesn't exist, and those Ekranoplans like the above KM-1 that is neither a plane or a boat, but still serve a purpose. Unlike you, Jer, who is nothing more than a question-avoiding Poe:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=112687&Page=1#1856860

If you were a True Christian who was secure in his faith, you'd have no problem with answering the questions in the above link.

If you don't, then everyone else will come to their own justified conclusions about you, Jer. That one word: Perception. And not just about you being exactly like Bryan Fischite, neither.

...oh, and whilst I'm still in smartarse mode, for an argument-annihilating encore, Jonathan Edwards (and he's been a born again Christian for far longer than you, little boy, so you're not exactly in any position to dictate who is a True Christian and who isn't; a little something called Matthew 7:1 says you can't or you'll go to Hell); those four magic letters: OSAS.

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I don't want to invite Jeebus anywhere near me. I don't feel like becoming a religious zombie from his bite. (12 Disciples, you know some kinky shit had to be going down between them...). I am an ex Christian who quit believing in God over a decade ago , people can and do change their beliefs everyday. It's called having an open mind, and growing as a person. I'm sick, filthy, and deprvaded? Fucking awesome. Please Jerry, keep sweet talking me. Am I twisted? a slut for Satan? Maybe a fucktoy for Jesus himself?

Maybe Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit, Satan, and I can get together for a really kinky five way that will last for days. Divine stamina, yum. Maybe we'll invite Allah and some of those sexy Hindu and Pagan gods for an all out epic fuckfest. So I am inviting Jesus inside me...

Would fucking Jeebus making me a Christian again? Ick.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Oxymoron's Razor

...except for Jonathan Edwards not-flying in an Ekranoplan. But still having his Salvation cake and eating it as an Atheist, while he looks through the window of said Ekranoplan not being a ship, and the sea spray produced by Ground Effect, coupled with sunlight, creating a rainbow that can be seen, but doesn't physically exist.

OSAS, Jer, OSAS. >:D

...and all this, whilst Jonathan not flies over a certain river in Egypt which Jerry currently resides in: as he - like Bryan Fischite - tries in a very roundabout & convoluted way to say he's [i]not[/i] a Closet Case.

As well as avoiding questions a True Christian who is secure in their beliefs would answer with no problems whatsoever: http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=112687&Page=1#1856860

old comment by FundieVision Inc

@ Nosgoth.

You know, By Jerry's own logic it means that other gods exist such as Allah, Thor, The Horned Lord, and other tribal and civilization specific deities. Since people believe in them, they can't quit believing in them, and they exist despite Jerry not wanting to admit to them.

@ Jerry

No True Scotsmen at it's finest. We don't meet your definition of a Christian, so Nosgoth and I surely cant be former members of your church. Oh wait, we are former members of your church and religion. We just happened to walk away for our own reasons.

So are quite a few members of this site as I recall. Me thinks you're full of shit Jerry-Chan and just don't want to admit that some people leave your religion when they become disgusted and fed up .

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Jerry

'Bible teaches that there is no such thing as an ex-Christian because those who "leave" Christianity were never true to the Faith to begin with', you say?

Gabriel, Banks & Rutherford 1:9¾:
Jonathan Edwards. OS[i]A[/i]S.

Also, Ekranoplans & Rainbows, Jer. Question: Ekranoplan: Aeroplane or Ship? 'You never seen an airplane, then you had to fly somewhere and you were on one, would you ever then claim that airplanes don't exist?' Use of Bad Analogy. Your argument is invalid.

Also, Amazonian tribes. They know about aircraft; Avianca Brasil civilian airliners, light aircraft owned by Brazilian citizens, or military craft of Força Aérea Brasileira flying overhead.

...and is the past monarch of my country, Britain - King James I - Saved? Yes or No?

If you were a True Christian secure in your 'faith', you'd have no problem with answeering those questions. And more besides.

1 Thessalonans 5:21 (KJV): 'Prove all things.' Oh, and no 'Interpretation' allowed, neither; as the KJV is the literal 'Word of God', then it means exactly that; and as the onus is on YOU to prove all things, the Burden of Proof, as it's you lot who claim that a 'God' exists, therefore you must prove what you claim, but only to our satisfaction. And that means proving things via the Scientific Method: empirical secular peer reviewed evidence.

A rainbow doesn't physically exist, but it can be seen. Explained easily too. Via the Scientific Method.

Rainbows therefore destroy the concept of the so-called 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural', therefore yiur 'God' doesn't exist. But you can always prove us wrong; 'Prove all things'. But only to our satisfaction. You have to, or else you're defying what your 'God' orders you (1 Thess. 5:21 [KJV]), and you'll go to Hell. Prove me wrong. Now.

Therefore, via your own God's 'Word', you are forced to answer our questions. And if you don't, then you yourself will have admitted that your 'God'. doesn't exist.

Can I tell you a little secret? I think I will anyway. You were NEVER a Christian. You were NEVER Saved. How do I know that? Because Jonathan Edwards: OS[i]A[/i]S, and alk that jazz, as well as all the other ex-Christians in FSTDT, prove you wrong.

You're not exactly a Professor of Theology, so your self-declarations based on subjective 'interpretation' of a KJV you can't even answer the simple question 'Is the KJV the only version to be trusted, is utterly flawless in every conceivable way, and is the absolute word of your God, as authorised by a past monarch (King James I) of my country, Britain? Is it or isn't it?', are invalidated.

If you weren't a Poe, you'd have no problem in answering all my questions. Like I say: 1 Thess. 5:21 (KJV) orders you to.

old comment by Jerry

Nosgoth:

So you just admitted that you never knew Jesus and He never knew you, which means that you were never a real Christian.

How do you accept the true Jesus of the Christian Bible?

Like so:

1. Admit that you are sinner, and that there is nothing out there that's more filthy, disgusting, reprobate, and worst than YOU. And not just say so, but genuinely understand it and believe it in your heart, mind and soul. Because this is the Truth!

2. Read the Christian Bible, AV1611, believe it, and accept that you DESERVE Hell, but that Jesus in His Love and Mercy sacrificed Himself for you. If you TRULY believe in His sacrifice, then you will repent of your sins.

3. After repenting of your sin and filthy nature, ask Jesus for forgiveness and Salvation. If you are genuine in your desire to be Saved from sin, you WILL receive it.

4. Out of obedience to the Lord, you will undergo water baptism with a true Christian assembly of believers and be fully born again in heart and in spirit.

5. You will love and obey the Christian Bible, not out of coercion, but because you WILL want to. As one famous preacher proclaimed, "I serve Him 'cause I want to." Likewise, you will abstain from sin because, by Grace, you WILL want to so.

In the name of the Lord,
Jerry

old comment by Nosgoth

@Jerry

y'see here's the problem, I did all that stuff as a kid, read the bible cover to cover, accepted I was a sinner and all that bull. (I was young & impressionable with low self esteem) and Jesus still never 'spoke' to me.

Also there's something I've always wondered and was wondering if, as a True Christian you could answer it for me?
Why did God need to orchestrate the sacrifice of Jesus (himself, unless you're a mormon) in order to change the rules placed down by...himself?
I'm not trying to be flippant here I would genuinely like to know, does God love us in which case why consider things like ignorance of his word a sin, or does he hate us in which case why offer us salvation in the first place?

Finally, your 'method' described could apply to any religion, I'll bet most Pagans, Hindus, Sikhs etc would say they worship because they want to, what makes yours different?

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Jerry

Can I tell you a little secret? I think I will anyway. You were NEVER a Christian. You were NEVER Saved. How do I know that? Because Jonathan Edwards: OSAS, and all that jazz, as well as all the other ex-Christians in FSTDT, prove you wrong.

If you weren't a Poe, you'd have no problem in answering all my questions. Like I say: 1 Thess. 5:21 (KJV) orders you to.

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