Hell is not a threat, it is the return address that these envelopes called our bodies are mailed with. (born with.) The Postmaster offers to change that return address free of charge, He will even pay the new shipping bill for you! People go to Hell because they do not accept the payment for that return address, it is as simple as that. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, and so the redeemed have no fear of hell, because we have been rescued from it, and that change of return address is permanent, Christ is unwilling for any of those He has been given to be lost.
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If it's free of charge, there is no payment, silly. Besides, the postage/transport for a package or envelope is paid for either by the sender or the receiver, not by the parcel itself.
Who are the ones "who are in Christ Jesus"? Is that the ones who live as Jesus told you to (treating the poor as you would treat Jesus), or the ones who just say they "accept Jesus as their Personal Savior"? I bet it's the second; living like Jesus said would be Hard Work for self-centered people like the fundies...
If Hell is the return address, surely if you didn't pay for it, your body would stay where it was? And why would it be the "packages" that are "accepting payment" for the return address? Haven't got the hang of how the postal service works, have you?
What if you're wrong? There are thousands of religions, so how, exactly, do you know YOURS is the correct one?
So, Jesus says he that every time he creates a person, they must suffer in Hell unless they agree to worship and praise him. Only then will they be safe from his wrath. Yeah, that's a threat. Sorry.
A month before Elvis died (oh, I know, it's allegedly died) the cover of National Lampoon magazine showed an obese Elvis.
The Postmaster offers to change that return address free of charge
So, no payment needed? What stops him from doing that for everyone right now?
People go to Hell because they do not accept the payment for that return address
There's a payment?? That is certainly not "free of charge" at all...
Oh, and since it's a "Pay this or you get tortured for all eternity" deal, that is the fucking definition of a threat... except this one is in the exercise of a protection racket.
It doesn´t make any fucking sense, not even in the theological one. Hell is not, for starters, a place, but a state of the soul and second, according to tradition, Satan was exiled to a place for his sin of rebelling against God, but it doesn´t say in any part of the Bible or said tradition that people were created there. You know, if you´re going to make an analogy, DO IT RIGHT.
+1 with TimeToTurn, it's not fundie, just standard christian doctrine very bad explained.
Westboro Baptist church erjoicing for people going to hell : that's fundie.
But when we die, our bodies are what remains behind. So how exactly are they an envelope that gets sent back to hell?
Or do you mean to say that everyone should be buried in Norway?
"... that change of return address is permanent ..."
Oh, thank your god! Since I was raised a christian, and accepted Jesus as my savior, I became saved. Since it's permanent, even though I no longer believe in any of that bullshit, I'm still going to heaven.
"lost"
(*Whips out pocket GPS *)
...sorry to burst your little fundie bubble (no I'm not!), but I'm afraid that with this handy-dandy little device giving me exact co-ordinates, also a graphical map at any time, I can know exactly where I am at any time, therefore it's impossible for me to be lost.
"Hell is not a threat"
Rainbows. They don't physically exist, but they can be seen . Just that fact alone destroys the whole concept of the so-called 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural', thus I warn you, don't force me to make you prove to me (1 Thessalonians 5:21[KJV]) that the 'Soul' exists, thus argumentally/logically/doctrinally cornering you. I don't make threats, I give warnings. You've been warned . [/"Suits"]
"Hell is not a threat, it is the return address that these envelopes called our bodies are mailed with. (born with.)"
- So people come from Hell originally? Does that mean you were born of the Devil?
Stupid analogy and unfortunate implications, but can't be considered too fundie. They are talking about spiritual sentiment, which is within the real of religious discourse.
Could be a liberal Christian to boot.
I'm willing to give this one a pass, because it's pretty much just an oddly phrased statement of faith. No, I don't like it, but it's a pretty mainstream belief among conservative evangelicals.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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