Biblical parabole of the Postmaster and Envelopes citation needed! Actually, the payment method appears to be a church's scam model, God certainly doesn't need your money. Are there angel-in-the-middle postmaster interception magic practitioners? Demon-in-the-middle salvation incantations?
So an unbeliever with superior-than-bible ethics is "in Christ Jesus" for knowing that they don't need to fear hell, that's good (and apparently Jesus was also debating scripture in his day). But those "saved" can then fall and sin all they want and still avoid hell, evidence of a inferior "divine ethics" standard? A type of loophole God forgot about, like he supposedly didn't expect Eve and Adam to bite into the too-appetizing fruit-lure (woman fishing bait?), regretted sending the flood, etc?
The suffer-by-default-but-sin-as-you-want-once-saved theology appears to only be identitarian, "join my click then enjoy sin", alternatively, "join ranks and obey my sinful commands that I claim are God's".
Other than that threats of hell are still threats of hell, or you wouldn't need to try to deny it and issue more threats of hell... Another interesting bug where wise humans don't have to fear. Not all Christians believe in eternal torment either.
How do I know hell eternal torment doesn't exist? The little elves who forged me from the hell fire told me it was just the "dust" we come from and go back to... Sarcasm, of course. It's easier to understand that an apparently powerless or inexistent deity creating beings with the intention to make them suffer would be an unethical deity, other than a figment of the human imagination.
An interesting example of how patriarchy and threats of hell work was in this thread where I also commented with my impression. https://fstdt.com/MSX4
