[A <a href="http://www.messengersoffaith.net/Jesus.html " target="_blank">jesus doll</a> the one2believe company donated to the U.S. Marines to distribute through toys for tots; but the Marines declined the dolls stating they distributed toys all over and had no way of knowing if the dolls would end in Jewish or Muslim homes.]
By making themselves judge, jury and executioner over the religious leanings of the toys, hasn't Toys for Tots violated the First Amendment by discriminating against religious toys in general, and perhaps Christian toys in particular?
Like I said before, my hunch is that a Buddha or Ganesh doll would not generate half the opposition. It's up to the parents to decide what toys reach their kids--not the government. In any sane world, every non-senile judge would recognize Toys for Tots' policy as unconstitutional.
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Does the Jesus doll come with cross and toy nails, with realistic dripping blood? That way, every time you sin you can nail Jesus to the cross again and shed his blood and be reminded that your sins are absolved.
Let me get this straight: The Boy Scouts, as a "private" institution, has constitutional protection for its discriminatory practices, but Toys for Tots, as a "private" enterprise, is violating the constitution by declining to use its resources and connections to pass out religious materials.
"By making themselves judge, jury and executioner over the religious leanings of the toys, hasn't Toys for Tots violated the First Amendment by discriminating against religious toys in general, and perhaps Christian toys in particular?"I don't believe toys have any rights humans can violate.
"Like I said before, my hunch is that a Buddha or Ganesh doll would not generate half the opposition."
Actually, I'm pretty sure those dolls would cause a mass Christian spasm throughout the country.
"It's up to the parents to decide what toys reach their kids--not the government."
Ultimately, that's true, but it would be insulting to present non-Christians with such an overtly Christian gift.
"In any sane world, every non-senile judge would recognize Toys for Tots' policy as unconstitutional."
If you weren't suffering from Christian delusion syndrome you would realize that you're being an asshat.
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Like I said before, my hunch is that a Buddha or Ganesh doll would not generate half the opposition.
I almost had a brain hemmorage reading this and then I saw that the Marines declined the dolls. I just got done donating about $200 worth of toys through Overstock.com's program.
@Inmate 22841666
ITS OLD TESTAMENT PEOPLE! ITS IN THE BIBLE!
The Marines are a military arm of the US government. The toys are distributed to families of every conceivable religious persuasion. Therefore, distributing a toy that represents one particular religion could be construed as government endorsement of -- or preference for -- that religion. Geez, that's real difficult concept to grasp, isn't it?
Regard the features:image
Can a 'pull my string and I'll preach nonsense' doll be arrested for violating children? I suppose it can since it can violate the 1st Amendment.
Totally agreed, Berny. They were having a debate about this on the local morning radio show; people were calling in and cussing out Toys For Tots, the Marines, etc, for not going along with this. I didn't hear a single rational person; you'd think that in a college town, at least one or two of the bright ones would have gotten through.obvious that having our troops distrubute these toys to non-Christian children would be a really fucking bad idea?
God, I thought that after last Tuesday, we were on our way back to sanity.
On the plus side, the Jesus Doll is the same size as Snake-Eyes and Cobra Commander. Plus, he can grasp and hold -- which means Jesus is gonna kick some ass in my toy display.
Bullshit. The fundies would be up in arms over it.
Yeah, they did. I have to admit that I'm disappointed, both in the organization and in my countrymen. I suppose that the damage the fundies could do to Toys For Tots through a public boycott doesn't make it worth the effort of taking a stand, but it still kills me to see people giving in to this crap.
"Like I said before, my hunch is that a Buddha or Ganesh doll would not generate half the opposition."
From the company's mission statement: "Our Passion is to confront children with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We know that if a child has a foundational understanding of the Bible and its stories, they will be tender toward developing a relationship with Jesus." government to distribute Christian religious symbols? Let One2Believe hand the things out themselves if they feel so strongly about it.
No, Toys for Tots didn't do anything at all. The Marines declined the toys, and making up a rule that says they can't do that would be a First Amendment violation. The Marines have a point -- they can't be certain they won't offend members of other religions accidentally, and they're not obligated to take that risk.
I agree the post is idiotic, and the Marines made the right choice. I also hope they would not distribute Buddha dolls, or Wiccan dolls, Ouija boards, or whatever other religious or occultic material might ever be donated.
The Marines are a military arm of the US government. The toys are distributed to families of every conceivable religious persuasion.
I thought (and I could be wrong) that they were given out specifically for Christmas. I was not aware that Muslims, Hindus or Jews actually celebrate Christmas. Are the toys not actually given for Christmas but just distributed for poor children in general?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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