["And please stop with the “we face a tyranny as vicious as that of Adolf Hitler” rhetoric. For someone who cares about Israel as much as you do, it’s sad that you’re equating conditions in America today to life under the Nazis." ]
Obama asked for the specific Hitler comparison when he severely disrespected the Prime Minister of Israel and suggested they retreat behind the 1949 Armistice Line and consent to the re-division of Jerusalem. So don’t dare claim to speak for the Jews on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama.
Those Jews whose feelings you dare say I just hurt, remember that first Hitler told them they didn’t need guns, and then told them to board the trains.
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Y'know, one of the things that annoys me most on this site is any time I see a quote basically saying if anyone ever dares ask anything of Israel or criticizes its actions they're a heartless monster. Not that I strictly have anything against the country (do have my issues with it, but that goes for just about anywhere you can name), don't get me wrong, but it's as fallible as anywhere else on this planet.
Why don't you just come out and say it? You want the state of Israel to control all of the Middle East, run roughshod over human rights, and bring about the rapture, right?
Obama suggested that the pre 1967 borders be used as a starting point in negotiations for a two state solution.
Something that George W. Bush suggested, something that Bill Clinton suggested,
I think the Jews should speak for the Jews on Obama. Nearly 70% of them voted for him to have a second term. What is more, Obama was reflecting US policy and the beliefs of most Israelis who, by the way, don't share your attitudes on gun control.
Incidentally, I don't recall Hitler having anything to say about the Prime Minister of Israel. Israel is a real country with real people; it is not an actor in a cult designed to fulfill your millennial fantasies.
Just because Israel is being asked to do SOMETHING with a reasonable chance of improving the middle-east situation, doesn't mean the president is Hitler. Come on, Terry, do you watch everything in black & white?
Someone on that thread makes an extremely clear and powerful case for gun control, and is told "Your whole argument is from emotion, not logic".
Gun control isn't always immediately followed by putting people in concentration camps. For instance, there are a lot of restrictions on who can own guns in this country, especially after someone shot some children in a school in 1996, but that wasn't followed by people being ordered to board trains and be sent to concentration camps.
So according to you, the next logical thing for Obama to do is invade Israel, round them all up into cattle cars and ship them off to death camps?
What alternate reality are you living in?
Seriously, do you read what you write?
we face a tyranny as vicious as that of Adolf Hitler
Dear Terry Hurlbut, now that you have voiced your anti-Obama opinion on the internet, you can expect a knock on the door at 3.00 AM. It will be the American Obama-Gestapo. They will take you away to a camp, torture you, and shoot you in the head. Then they will send the bill for the bullet to your family.
Oh wait, no, that won't happen. Quite the opposite: you will be able to continue voicing your opinion with total impunity. In four years you'll be able to vote for the nutjob of your choice.
Gee, maybe we aren't facing a "tyranny as vicious as that of Adolf Hitler".
Yes, by restricting access to military grade assault rifles, Obama truly might as well just herd you onto the trains, and into the gas chambers.
Because really, I dunno about you guys, but surely, I do not see the difference.
-_-
Their assault style, not actual assault rifles. They are semi-auto long rifles which account for a whopping 2 % of usa gun deaths.
That said, godwin. Not sure how you get a fascist liberal. Thatd be hard.
"Obama asked for the specific Hitler comparison when he severely disrespected the Prime Minister of Israel and suggested they retreat behind the 1949 Armistice Line and consent to the re-division of Jerusalem."
And how exactly is asking a government to stop stalling and start obeying international law and the treaties they signed disrespectful or asking for a Hitler comparison? If you ask me, it is Israel acting like bullying assholes and then playing the victim card to demand that the West support it that is disrespectful... (Clarification to prevent flaming: I absolutely do not contest that Jews have very often been victims throughout history. What I oppose is the Israeli government weaponizing said history to attempt to legitimize/cover their own abuses)
@Old Viking
"No, dipshit, Hitler didn't say anything to the Jews about their guns. It would be akin to telling the Amish they had to give up their guns".
No, it'd be like telling the Amish to give up their iPods.
"it’s sad that you’re equating conditions in America today to life under the Nazis."
Abortion was illegal under the Nazis.
So, not quite like conditions in America, but exactly like conditions in the Republic partys dream world.
@nazani 14:
"Why do fundies care what happens to Israel? Jesus just plans to use it as a launching pad when he returns, the political conditions there are irrelevant. "
Because Jesus can't return until the temple is rebuilt. You can't do that without demolishing the 2 mosques that are there, thus starting a multi-million muslim continuous riot. Also there is a scripture that says god will do to you what you do to the jews.
Combine these two things, and christian fundies must support any rediculous thing they imagine Israel wants to do.
Of course we all remember that famous quotation of Adolf Hitler's, where he made his ultimate goal clear:
"Once I am really in power, my first and foremost task will be the confiscation of all personal firearms."
Or maybe I'm misquoting.
But, who is speaking for the Palestinians, whose country US and England just gave to the Jews? Who is speaking for the Palestinian children who are shot, maimed and killed on their way home from school? If anyone/anything even slightly deserves the Hitler Comparison, it's the Israeli Government's treatment of the Palestinians.
Israel has time and time again violated the border agreements, and invaded Palestinian territory. When the Palestinians try to defend their territory, they are called terrorists and killed in huge numbers (men, women and children, indiscriminately) by Israel's infinitely more superior war-machine.
"remember that first Hitler told them they didn’t need guns"
So why did the conquering US forces take away all the Katanas from the Japanese people (centuries-old family heirlooms), post-WWII; only decades later were a few returned? So the occupying forces & the US military government just implemented the anti-Katana policy purely for shits & giggles, and not because they saw the Katana as a symbol of Japanese nationalism...?
Did Gen. MacArthur tell them that they didn't need their weapons?
Wnen Germany surrendered, all their people had to hand over their guns.
Japan to this day has gun control laws even more hyper-draconian than the UK's.
2nd Amendment. 'The right to keep and bear arms'. But only for you .
Hitler was a hypocrite too. [/Reverse-Godwin]
No, Hitler actually loosened gun regulations in Germany, for the most part. He DID disarm Jews and anyone else he was planning to send off to the camps, but the general populace found their gun rights expanded.
Confused?
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