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I find it funny how few people see the obvious connection between sexual liberation (viewed as a good thing) and the increased sexual objectification of women (viewed as a bad thing). Now i know women have always been objectified, but today there's such an emphasis on 'being sexy', you have 10 year old girls trying to be sexy. Do some people, including feminists, want their want to have their cake and eat it to (i know stupid saying)? I mean if you wanna express your sexuality, fine, nothing against that, just don't act all prudish when men admire your assets, is all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's an invitation to rape, but you have to admit it promotes more lewd/animalistic behaviour, because thats our nature. Just look at music videos and porn being so mainstream...I'm not sure if I want to be a parent in this era...


[IDK. It sounds like your saying men aren't civilized and cant be expected to take responsibility for controlling their desires and actions therefore it is a woman's responsibility to suppress their own sexuality or its our fault if we are objectified.

While I agree our society has become more openly sexual I don't agree that it has increased the objectification of women. As you stated that has been going on since the beginning. If anything it has probably decreased the objectification and increased the empowerment as the naked female body is seen as less taboo.]

What does 'controlling their desires' mean though? If a man gets aroused at a woman in a bikini is that his fault? Now he can make the decision to force himself on her, but that would be wrong, but he'll still objectify her. That is just nature. But that's not even what I'm talking about. Women want to have sexual freedom, they like sex...yes, that's nothing new too...if they want to show off their body in such a sexual manner, have a lot of hook ups/be promiscuous, they have to expect men will lust after them, right? If they can accept that, then fine. The thing is, this will simply lead to self-worth being based more on looks and sexiness.

You seriously think women are less objectified now than in the past? Look at advertising, look at music videos, compare now and 100 years ago. One could argue that in some ways men respected women more 100 years ago, while in some ways they respected them less. It's a bit of both, but the sexual objectification is part of sexual liberation, whether we like it or not.

In that case women are objectified as much as ever. There are still women in beer commercial, Hooters girls, pretty but incompetent waitresses...it's not all one-sided, too...many women TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, so I get sick of women always thinking it's the man's fault for this happening...that's what I'm talking about.

Women say 'we don't wanna be objectified', but they flaunt their sexuality and USE it for their own purposes. Not ALL (obviously) but a lot. And pop culture and society promote this, 'you can use your sex appeal to get to the top,' 'if you've got it flaunt it' attitude. Now do you get it?

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