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In the manosphere, there are many men who say, "I try to leave women better than I found them." This idea was debunked by Heartiste. Women don't age well, and having sex with men and then breaking up with them tends to take a toll on them. Even if they enjoy the experience, that will just produce wistfulness later, when they're post-wall and stuck with a guy who doesn't turn them on as much.

I'm not aware that homosexual relationships work under the same premise as a heterosexual marriage, that the cost of enjoying the kitten phase is that you have to take care of the grown cat. (As Victor Pride writes, "It's a tradeoff, she gives you her good years and you put up with her in her bad years. Never take a woman already in her bad years.")

People err in thinking that homosexual relationships or pederastic relationships operate according to the same principles as straight relationships. The lack of potential to have kids is a key difference. Even though Roosh seems to be cutting ties with me at this point, I have to acknowledge that he was smart to point out during Milogate that gays and straights are indeed different, and that we shouldn't hold them both to the same standards in their relationships. Their needs are different, their culture is different, their relationship dynamics are different, etc.

It probably is a lot more possible for a man-boy relationship to leave the boy better off, because his time hasn't been wasted the way that a girl's time is wasted during her years of peak fertility and beauty if a man pumps her and dumps her. I think we should call out the antis when they assume that boys are just like girls, and that they have the same vulnerabilities and need to be protected in the same way that a father would guard his maiden daughter's virtue. That's some politically correct nonsense.

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