Raising daughters is not a good business deal. You make a twenty-year investment and then just up and give the whole thing away to an inexperienced boy who doesn’t at all appreciate the value of what he is getting, and is probably not worthy of the gift, or “theft,” as it may be. To top it all off, he changes her name – takes her out of the family, and erases all traces of her lineage. Her children will not carry on your family name!
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On the other hand, assuming that you're sure of the paternity of your daughter, then you can be sure that her children are your grandchildren. With a son you can never be sure, absent DNA testing.
...wait, women are property to be bought and sold now?
Oh, that's right, we're living according to teh bibble. Sorry.
Seriously though: You could replace 'woman' with 'teapot' or soemthing, and it would still make (some) sense! That's disquieting.
A good business deal? Seriously?
I'm so, so thankful that feminism came along and made this mode of thinking abnormal.
It's a pity that you think the only value of your daughter is her virginity and family name. You miserable, misogynistic piece of shit, you should go move to the Middle East where this sort of tribalistic bullshit is acceptable.
Why does this post have less than 4.5??
Also:
Raising sons is not a good business deal. You make a twenty year investment and then just up and give the whole thing away to an inexperienced girl who doesn’t at all appreciate the value of what she is getting, and is probably not worthy of the gift, or “theft,” as it may be.
Let's just not have kids, and save tons of money instead.
What about the 3 or 4 boys your daughter banged before she settled on her husband?
Or do you just put your fingers in your ears and go "LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING!" whenever someone brings up the fact that your daughter has a sex life?
You know, I think raising kids is supposed to be a labour of love. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept of love, Mr Pearl, but apparently some liberal Jewish hippie had a fair amount to say about the subject.
"Raising daughters is not a good business deal."
Good thing my Dad didn't think of me as a "business deal," then. When I was born with liver problems that required three invasive surgeries to fix, he came to see me three times a day when I was in the hospital. He didn't care whether or not it would "pay off" in the end, he just wanted to be there for his (at the time) only child, even if I had died.
I sincerely hope you have no daughters. It's bad enough you have children as it is!
Aren't these the same sort of folks who at the mere mention of abortion/people not wanting kids will yell, "But children are a precious and wonderful gift from the LORD!" ?
I wish they could be consistant.
And then this guy goes on to blab about how a father must be sure he is 'giving' his dauther away to the 'right man,' so raising said human being was all 'for not!' Yeah, this guy is a great parent, talking about treating women as chattle/slaves.
Wow. This keeps getting better. On asking a 'potential suitor' if he has ever viewed porn:
'But if the kid looks like he just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, you likely have a porno freak seeking your daughter’s hand. He may end up molesting your grandkids.'
Yeah, if you look at porn you're totally going to be a child molester... And if you don't look at porn, there's no way you could be a pedo!
'Find out how he relates to his brothers and sisters. If he is fatherly and protective of his younger siblings, then he will be so with his own children. If he thinks they are brats and avoids them, then he is selfish and will not like his own children. How does he view his mother? That’s how he will view his wife.'
Yeah, that's... right on. This guy obviously should have been a psychologist.
'If you get past that, ask him if he has ever had sexual contact with an animal. A growing number of teenagers have.'
lol
Seriously, after encountering this guy you'd think anyone with half a brain would want nothing to do with him or his family.
Well, obviously you should chain her in the basement and force her to bear your children. That's the solution for handling those ungrateful little bitches, isn't it, pedophile? Why don't you take a page out of the Chinese book of procreation and just abort any female children? I'd be happy to loan you a coat hangar if you need one.
What coleur is the sky on your plantet? Evolutionary, raising daughters is a prudent and safe business deal with almost guaranteed results (grandchilderen). Daughters are also more likely to take care of aged parent.
Erasing lineage and familyname. . . . You have delusions of grandeur. Those kind of 'problems' are reserved for the nobility. Most people are content with knowing the maidenname of their mother and who their maternal familymembers are.
Is Mikey implying that he'd rather make like the tribal Indians and abort baby girls? 'Cause Gawd knows the little cunts aren't worth shit over the holy penis.
Gah. That hurt to type.
Do we have a rating for "epic douchebag"? Five isn't enough.
I am sure that perv in Austria, the one who locked up his daughter in a secret cellar for 24 years, repeatedly raping her, and fathering children on her, had the same mindset as you, you sick bastard.
Funny, no matter what my last name is, my parents would probably both say *I* am the best deal tey got out of their kids, and I am the only female. I am the one that visits regularly, makes sure they have food if they are feeling ill or in need of extra rest, brings their grandchild to see them (she is part of their lineage, last name be damed), etc. And my husband didn't take me out of my family, he extended their family to include him.
Someone is a bit hung up on the importance of a name. You need to talk to some adoptees. I would hope you don't but it sounds like you might play favorties with the grandchildren because some have your name and some don't.
Apart from the fact that you're insulting both sexes and bothering about something so unimportant as family name, this is the proof that, when they're not trying to backpedal when women flee their church, fed up with their sexism, and they think they're safe from scrutiny, they're this mysoginistic.
Having read the article this quote is taken out of context. He later goes on to state the effort was for 'your daughters sake' (not that I agree on his methods of parenting).
However, I am not defending Michael Pearl, as I think he is a complete and utter twit. The article talks about the 'importance' of making sure that your daughter makes the right decision.
All I have to say is get a grip. Seriously. Your daughters are grown up now and in this enlightened society are allowed to make decisions on their own. Even if she does choose, in your mind, a dud - that is really none of your business. You can possibly make suggestions, but after that it is her own decision.
And a final note, I find Michael Pearl to be quite nauseating.
Raising daughters is not a good business deal." -- Michael Pearl
The ancient Romans didn't think so. But of course, they arranged all of their daughters marriages. So a daughter was quite a valuable commodity. She could be used to form an important financial or political alliance. Colleen McCullough's "Masters of Rome" series described this thouroughly. They did indeed view their children as commodities to benefit the family.
Personally, I feel that cruds like Pearl desperately yearn to reintroduce arranged marriage into our society.
M. Pearl, if he doesn't go the rural Chinese route and drown infant daughters as a liablility, preferring a son, sounds like what some of the Italian old-timers have told me was a wedding custom over 100 years ago in some neighborhoods around Boston. After the wedding night, when the couple had consummated the marriage, the bride's family would drape the blood-stained bed-sheet from the tenement window to prove to all the neighbors their daughter was pure on her wedding night. Can't you see the Pearls doing this?
Listen closely, you deranged fundamentalist fuckwad:
Daughters. Are. NOT. Your. Property. They are not real estate. They are not cars. They are not 401 K's. They are not Roth IRAs. They are people.
"Raising daughters is not a good business deal. You make a twenty-year investment and then just up and give the whole thing away to an inexperienced boy who doesn’t at all appreciate the value of what he is getting"
Plus you can never get into the bathroom, or use the phone in the evening, again. You also get to watch them amaze you time and again until you are sure that they will win a Nobel prize one day, only for them to come home in tears because their best friend said Kevin from the Jonas Brothers was better looking than "Troy" off High School Musical.
And when they are older and curvy in ways you don't like to think about, you will still think of them as "your little girl", the moppet who loved it when you made sandcastles after sandcastle for her to squash. Then when "moppet" disappears for a night with her girlfriends in a halter top, a thong and a skirt narrower than many belts, your heart will break with the slam of the front-door.
Nope, daughters are not a good business deal. Nor are they meant to be.
It takes someone steeped in the Old Testement vinegar of "take my two daughters and do what you like with them" (Genesis 19:8), and "sell your daughter as a servant" (Exodus 21:7), or "a son makes a woman unclean for 33 days, a daughter for 66" (Lev 12:1-5), and "dishonored daughters of priests should be burned to death" (Lev 21:9) to be vile enough to think that way.
OMG WHAT WILL I DO IF MY OWN DAUGHTER DOESN'T CARRY ON MY NAME ?????
It's not middle age anymore, how could it even matter ?!
Keeping contact and submitting to the wishes of religious bigot fundie parents who think you are their property is not a good business deal. You make a heavy emotional investment. But you receive nothing but endless humiliation, power games, emotional blackmail, audacious demands, sometimes open threats, and in a lot of cases even physical assault. To top it all off, they demand this because of the writings in a strange book called "the bible", and babble something like "honor thy father and mother", when in reality they demand total submission, regardless whether you are a child, an adolescent or an adult. Bullies like these should be given the boot at the earliest time possible, thats what they deserve.
You better invest your precious emotions in someone else, best in a partner who treats you with respect and honor and whom you can trust.
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