["Is every religion a misinterpreted their gods to be aliens !?" ]
I think rather that devils and demons have taken on the appearance of "aliens" in order to fool western society into delusion. If you ever read the Lives of the Saints in the Eastern Orthodox Church, you will see that many Saints and monks experienced demonic temptations and visions very similar in nature to the modern UFO/Alien occurrence. Fr. Seraphim Rose discusses this in depth in his book "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future." For starters, I don't think that it is a coincidence that nearly every alien/UFO experience involved the "aliens" promising to share a "new truth" or "spiritual revelation" to the human "abductee" that is always clearly anti-religious in nature. Then you have the fact that many of these people ultimately end up committing suicide or going insane. This is very similar to the accounts of demons in the Lives of the Saints. Only difference now is that the demons are aware of how scientifically minded the western world has become, so they've changed their appearance to seem "natural" so that they could more easily fool a scientific population that doesn't believe in supernaturalism anymore.
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Or both aliens and demons arise from the fears, flaws, and delusions of the human mind, adapted to the paradigm sufferers believe in.
" they've changed their appearance to seem "natural" so that they could more easily fool a scientific population that doesn't believe in supernaturalism anymore."
Wheras you fundies can still be fooled by cons that fooled ignorant primitives thousands of years ago.
#1554603
Of course they are sneaky John. Any idiot mathematician can conceive of potential hyper-dimensional and multidimensional spaces. Super string theorists like 11 dimensions for example. Whatever occupies those dimension can make prey of your soul.
It's all just a joke on these pages. You won't be laughing.
Amazingly enough, this particular fundie is not 100% off the truth. In the previous centuries, lots of people claimed they were visited by angels or demons. Now, the same sort of people claims they were visiteds by aliens.
Carl Sagan devoted an entire chapter of his book, The Demon-Haunted World, to describing how similar alien abduction experiences are to older encounters with angels, demons, gods, etc. He tells the account of a British woman named Anne Jeffries from the 17th Century, who met three short ugly men while walking down a forest path. The men (whom she called "fairies") flew her up to their castle in the sky and had sex with her.
hey, MADMAN, seriously look at the UFO material and something is happening. No you won't, but I can smirk a little while suggesting it all the same. You see madman, I actually do think of you as like set in Mafia concrete, fait accompli, alla poster satanist? Ebon. Would words from a Fundie possibly sway his opinion on any subject matter at all?
To you and your naturalistic materialism fraternity crop circles for example must, simply must, be drunks out hoaxing everyone. Trouble is like so very many other serious anomalies in life - they just can't be.[though without a shadow of doubt a few of them are hoaxes by the local Bozo the clown freak shows]
So, I win.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/Emilia/Emilia2013a.html
Yeah, I'm signing off. But with full assurance madman can't look at the details of these things and conclude anything other than college students did it for a prank. That's his only possible conclusion = as with yourself. Nothing? / nothing else can possibly exist but what the Discovery Channels have always spoon fed you
Only difference now is that the demons are aware of how scientifically minded the western world has become, so they've changed their appearance to seem "natural" so that they could more easily fool a scientific population that doesn't believe in supernaturalism anymore.
It's more likely the other way around: in the old days, people attributed stuff to demons; now they attribute it to "aliens".
@Phillip George
I love it when commenter's here try to use string theory or M-theory if you like and brings up the number of dimensions without any understanding of how they work. 11? Try 26! But that number is only really limited by the number of letters in the English language. Not my word but of Professor Susskind, one of the inventors of M-theory and the one I learned it from.
to the human "abductee" that is always clearly anti-religious in nature. Then you have the fact that many of these people ultimately end up committing suicide or going insane. This is very similar to the accounts of demons in the Lives of the Saints. Only difference now is that the demons are aware of how scientifically minded the western world has become, so they've changed their appearance to seem "natural" so that they could more easily fool a scientific population that doesn't believe in supernaturalism anymore.
Ok, we've confirmed the spammer can talk, as the two above posts are his.
Make of this fact what you will.
How does one reconcile demons and agnosticism?
/Lovecraft Mode On
Then you have the fact that many of these people ultimately end up committing suicide or going insane.
Um, I'm thinking maybe this might be because people who are insane are more likely to experience delusions, like visitations by aliens or demons.
@PG-13
Wait, but isn't the Discovery Channel one of the networks that has all the shows about aliens?
I know about Ancient Aliens on 'History' ((Quote-unquote)), but I could've sworn Discovery did it too.
Pip,
HaHa, Shrinker and you in bed together. No, come in, lie down look at the ceiling and relax and tell me about how you think inorganic matter once upon a time in time-space far away from us self organized itself into complex living systems and then turned itself into even more intelligent stuff like the real Darwin; who could read his own origins like advertisements on the back of any corn flakes box.
With artists impressions of what all your relatives along the way did. You know, grab that sassy hairy wench by the hair and drag her back to his cave to grunt the night the away.
[we haven't had a 'have you taken your meds today' for quite some time - all you intellectuals should be on something]
Maketh my day bro. Have a few beers and get out in the middle of the night with infra red goggles and KungFu leave no footprints steps and make a few intricate mathematically precise crop circle in someone's barley patch without anyone noticing a thing.
#1554834
Well meeh, parallelism multiverses then. Whatever's fashionable this week in hand waving dark matter dark energy lands.
But Meeh as a man of science how do you suppose something as simple as our own solar system came into being? It must be a few Occam's razor steps short of infinitely complex?
Surely you have something this simple mapped out in a plain easy to read chronology. You know, one simple little 9 body plus moons solar system?
[I should point out a few simpletons such as myself think of this solar system as mind bogglingly complex - but I'm confident that you can wave a few generalities at it and appear very expert indeed]
@MadmanJohnson
/Lovecraft Mode On
Brrrrrr, spooky!
And PG-13’s comments about “hand waving” and “mind boggling complex” show again that his critic on science boils down to “I cannot understand it and it makes my head hurt, so it has to be false!”. How revealing.
#1554991
but you stopped just a sentence short of a complete thought.
You have done all this elaborate searching?
Ps. I think Meeh, if he saw it at all, understood the question Madman.
Pps. I've already said here a number of times that the only reason I'm here is having had my posts at a (or the) Kent Hovind/ Dr Dino forum lifted out of context - really badly out of all recognizable context.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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