A travel ban is supposed to stop terrorism? These people are willing to blow themselves up for their religion. How are you going to stop that with a stupid travel ban?
Better idea: 1. Give Palestine back to the Palestinians. 2. Carve out a Muslim state in Europe, say in the middle of Germany and give them funding till they’re on their feet. 3. Get our troops out of the Middle East. 4. Enact strict hate crime laws against anti-Muslim speech.
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Fei Fong Wrong at every turn. It's like you want to see more blood.
EDIT: Having read the other quotes from this one, I'm going to say that it's more than just like that.
So you're saying that creating a jewish state in muslim territory is bad and is asking for problems, but creating a muslim state in, well, non-muslim territory is good and will solve everything?
What Insult to Rocks said.
The travel ban IS stupid. But most Muslims are not willing to kill themselves - or others - for their faith.
And how will carving out a Muslim state in Europe help, when there are already many Muslim countries already? The Jewish people didn't have a country until relatively recently (and that's STILL causing problems with the non-Jews who were also living there), so it sort of makes sense to give them one... but Islam? They have countries. The problem is that most people emigrating from those countries don't want to live under a Muslim theocratic government.
For once, NeoMatrix and I are in agreement.
This is going too far in the other direction - and is still patently offensive against the majority of Muslims who are innocent and not suicidal.
Honestly, though, I think I agree more with Citizen Justin - this feels more like what a right winger thinks left wingers are saying.
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One of the London Bridge terrorists was from Ireland .
This? Manchester? Westminster Bridge? 7/7? 30 years of the white IRA. Luftwaffe bombs/V-1s/V-2s in WWII. We're still here.
Better idea: STFU, Fei FAILING Twonk.
The Daily Kos was a mistake.
Free Palestine. The Jews can have Lebanon, Tartous, and Latakia. And maybe North Yemen for good measure.
At this point, we might as well give Palestine back to the British for all the good it's going to do.
I mean, say you're an average Israeli citizen. You didn't decide to partition the Middle East the way they did. You just live here. You've lived here your whole life and probably one or both of your parents did, too. How would you react to someone taking it away to give to another group? You might as well go shoot rockets at Palestine - after all, it worked for them, didn't it?
To say nothing of what the Germans would say about having a new state "carved out" of them.
HOW ABOUT....
1. Promote the Two-State solution.
2. Accept European Muslims as fellow Europeans and help the Refugees settle and become citizens.
3. Rebuild stuff in the Mid-East, build schools, hospitals, etc. and keep military around only for self-defense in case insurgents or Wahhabi nuts want to ruin everything. Win hearts and minds and don't blow up stuff willy-nilly.
4. Work with sane non-Frummy Muslim clerics and scholars and others to educate the public about both Islam as a faith and Muslims (to negate the hateful rumors and fear) and censure hate speech if it explicitly incites hate crimes and violence. Preach tolerance.
@SpukiKitty
"HOW ABOUT....
1. Promote the Two-State solution. "
Won't work. Muslims will riot if there is any treaty that allows Israel to exist.
They will assassinate whatever muslim politician signed that treaty and replace him with one that won't accept the existence of Israel. Also jewish fundies won't accept anyone but jews controlling any part of Jerusalem.
2. Carve out a Muslim state in Europe, say in the middle of Germany and give them funding till they’re on their feet.
Qua de causa?????
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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