Our local newshour had a segmnet on female Cahtolic "priests" a couple of nights ago. It showed a female in vestments (pretending to be) celebrating Mass and identified her as a "Roman Catholic Priest".
I was so repulsed by the sight I had to turn away and not look at the "mass". I know the orders were not valid and that the news was badly mistaken in their report. I am troubled by my own emotional reaction. I can look at some pretty gory and repugnant sights and not have to turn away.
CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did. DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?
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"CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did."
You're a disgusting sexist pig. Or, considering your screen name is "Monica02", I assume you're female, in which case some sexist males have brainwashed you into believing garbage about your own sex.
I can look at some pretty gory and repugnant sights and not have to turn away.
Such as, for example, a crucifix?
CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did.
Just off the top of my head, I'm gonna go with chemical imbalance.
DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?"
I'm repulsed by the sight of anyone conducting 'mass' rituals, so you're not alone.
I won't hold back the truth. You reacted the way you did because someone, perhaps a parent or a church leader, exposed you to a false moral teaching in your early youth -- a time of great susceptibility before one develops an immunity to these things.
Again, I'll be honest. This is an injury that could grow to become crippling -- even a danger to others. Luckily it can be cured by simple critical thinking about things. My prescription: some thought, maybe a little philosophy; try to get some empathy into every day and stay away from things that are bad for you, such as religious fundamentalism.
As someone who has been to Episcopal services, a lot, I see nothing wrong with women celebrating mass. You must have been told at a young age that it was wrong and had a bad reaction when something from outside your little universe took place.
CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did. DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?"
You have internalized you selected religion's intrinsic misogyny. It may be possible that you suffer from what is known as "Stockholm syndrome."
I certainly wouldn't have that kind of a reaction, and I fail to see what's so horrifying about a woman becoming a priest.
Seriously, you should be glad she has such commitment to the faith, especially with the shortage of priests that Catholics are having lately.
With that said, I nominate this for Fundie Stockholm Syndrome Award.
You are suffering from what is called "cognitive dissonance," the discomfort of holding two conflicting concepts at the same time: knowing that priests should always be men, and seeing a priest who is a woman. The discomfort was so great that you turned away to alleviate it. But you are still troubled because you cannot reconcile these two concepts, nor can you simply wish away the female priest and return your reality to its established norm.
Gory and repugnant sights don't bother you because your god delights in bloodshed and killing. But seeing a woman exercise religious authority threatens you so much that you can't even face it.
Since everyone else has dealt with the emotional issue so well, I'll address one other point.
"I know the orders were not valid and that the news was badly mistaken in their report."
Well, gee, it's too bad you're not on the fact-checking staff of the news station. You really ought to go down there and INSIST that they run any religion-related stories by you first. Be sure to show them your academic credentials as a theologian -- which I'm guessing consists of Good Attendance certificates from your church Sunday School class, at most.
~David D.G.
Wait, in all seriousness, the Catholics are allowing women to become priests now? I've been out of the loop for almost a decade, I know, but I thought I'd have heard that.
Well, hey, good for them if they did.
Well, there is an explanation. Probably the woman was not a priest or so. Sometimes, when priests are scarce, some nuns celebrate mass. They can´t consacrate and so, but there are cases(I have seen it myself in those abandoned villages in my hometown Galicia)or, it was just a woman taking part on some of the liturgy rituals concerning the mass, as usual. Is it normal?, no way. You´re just too brainwashed.
I think current views within the Catholic Church are that as long as a priest consecrates, (substitute "says the magic words" as your worldview requires) anybody can lead the Liturgy of the Word and pass out Communion, and that counts for a Mass even though a priest isn't there.
--GF
CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did. DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?"
Sure. You're a Catholic fundamentalist.
I don't react that way because my Lutheran pastor is a female, the music director (me) is gay, and our church voted to become a RIC (Reconciling in Christ) congregation, meaning that gays and lesbians, single mothers with children, interracial couples and all the other people whom the church has traditionally shunned have full and equal membership and privileges in the congregation.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
No. When I see a female priest (or rather, priestess, as is the more technical term) conducting a liturgy, I think of it as a hopeful sign that the hateful, ignorant mindset of fundies like you is diminishing.
As an ex-Catholic, I have heard about some Episcopal ministers becoming Catholic, and so you'd have married priests. Whether they'd allow for married priests as well, I don't know. Where I grew up, lay people take part in all parts of Mass, and women lectors are routine. She may have been seeing a woman doing a reading. My mother says that women weren't even allowed on the altar, never mind to take part until the 60's. That's probably how far back this one is going.
Explanation for your reaction?
Yeah, you're a stupid bitch who's been brainwashed by your beliefs into thinking you and all women are inferior to men.
I've been to a church run by women who were ordained by a Roman Catholic bishop (who, it seems, that the Vatican can shove it). Good stuff...and not only because it makes so many Catholic fundies turn beautiful shades of purple.
"CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did."
- You're insane, bigoted and brainwashed.
"DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?"
- No. But I balk with horror when I see this level of misogyny coming from another female. You disgust me. Get out of my gender right now!
Another thing, sentences do not start with two capital letters.
I have an explanation; you're a sexist bigot.
Protestantism has had female priests (no scare-quotes), for years and years, God still hasn't done anything about it. Guess he aproves.
Do you also look away when people are eating shellfish, work on the Sabbath, or wear clothes of mixed fabrics, or is it just in this issue that you follow Bible teachings?
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