What are the ethics of child free couples? I personally believe it is unethical to be "child free". I believe it is selfish and frankly quite sickening.
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Well I for one don't give two squirts what you think. I'm childless and I like it just fine. I think your attitude is sickening. Just because you are capable of knocking someone up, that makes you a step above somehow? You have some better sense of morals or ethics then I or my wife? To me you sound like a bitter jack-off who probably wishes he had the balls to have kept his family from growing to 7 screaming kids.
Have fun cleaning up the green baby poop, my wife and I are going to a movie, get something to eat and have some sex. Maybe all at once, I'll have to see when the time comes. Of course, we'll have to go to a different theatre, we've been banned for life from the last one. :)
Unfortunately, there's no way to possibly support that belief. But then, if you're posting on Christian Forums, that's probably par for the course for you.
Ethics like those of my aunt, who was made a hysterectomy, or my friend, who has suffered a cancer and can´t have children because she may die. Or ethics like those of my best friend in college, who can have eviction any time at all.
My partner and I are fence-sitters on the whole child v. childfree thing. We don't want one right now, but in the future, who knows? Probably we won't. But that's our choice and no one else's. Personally, I'd rather go to Fiji for our tenth anniversary.
Which one of our dear members said something to the effect of not wanting to "pop a screaming, hairless crotch monkey out of [her] vagina"?
Yea, I can completely understand that.
Not all of us can care for - or even want - children. Sorry to shatter your "I am the world" delusion.
Fuck you. You're a judgemental prick (an un-Christian virtue, might I add.)
When they say child free - do they mean people who also choose to adopt instead of havin their "own" children? Cause, that would include me. I'd much rather adopt a child in need of a loving home, than try a pop out my own.
How is it any more selfish than filling up the world with more unneeded children just so you can have little versions of yourself running around?
I love how dumbfucks like this assume anybody who hasn't popped out a kid is selfish and unethical. Never mind working for charity, adopting, things like that. You're not a real Christian until you have a baby.
Also, I wonder if he'd say this to Jesus?
The ethics of child free couples are quite variable. They are not a monolithic block of clones. They are people.
So its unethical, selfish and sickening that a couple cant have children? How so?
What is unethical about suffering an injury that prevents reproduction?
What is selfish about giving up your dream of having children, so as to avoid contributing to the global population crisis?
What is sickening about not wanting children?
"What are the ethics of child free couples?"
Probably not much different than the general population. Sometimes, more environmentally attuned.
"I personally believe it is unethical to be "child free"."
That's because you are a judgemental fucktard and you don't know the definition of ethics.
"I believe it is selfish and frankly quite sickening."
Good. I hope you continue to be sick. Frankly, you are the one who is being selfish and I think you are a sick fucker.
Um, just what gives you the right to breed like some kind of sex crazed animal?
There is no way you have the resources to keep banging out kids, and you know I wont stand idly by while your kids suffer due to your poor choices.
I personally don't care either way; Its up to my mate. If she wants'em, I'll be right there with her to help. If not, no problem either. I'll be happy either way.
But those having kids, or worse yet getting hitched and having kids, just because "its what society/church/mom wants" aren't just being unethical, they're being spineless and probably won't even be very good parents.
How can you possibly love something you didn't want, and are reminded of not having wanted every time you see it? How can you love your kids when you can't even love yourself thanks to years of brainwashing and scripture-induced self-loathing/guilt?
At least any kids I have will have some kindness and logic passed on to them.
I personally believe that it's unethical to selfishly want your own flesh and blood when there's plenty of children who need to be adopted. I personally believe it's unethical to add to an already overpopulated planet. I personally believe it's unethical to command me to have a child that I cannot afford. Given the likelihood that any child my marriage would produce would be autistic, my ethics don't allow me to play Russian roulette with our genes. God forbid some couples think critically before squeezing out screaming poop factories.
Haha. I was waiting for someone to bring up the Duggars. They are far from alone, it's just unusual for full-quiver families to pimp themselves out to television. They normally prefer to live a quiet life, helping their communities and living as they feel is right. Don't worry, the US births are still below replacement level despite the full-quiver movement.
Missus, so do you like or hate children? On the one hand you seem sensitive to the plight of unwanted babies, on the other you call them mere screaming poop factories.
I don't like or dislike children as a whole. Kids are individuals. Some are awesome; some are awful. Babies are screaming poop factories, though. They scream, poop, and do very little else.
I'm inclined to agree with TheMissus. Kids (you know, once they're capable of doing something besides screaming, soiling themselves, and puking) are awesome. Babies, on the other hand... not my thing.
I guess some babies scream and poop and little else; my daughter rarely cried, she smiled and cooed a lot, she nursed happily, slept a lot...well whatever. Depends on your experience I guess. There's nothing selfish in having children though, just as it isn't selfish to not have children.
Such a cute bunch of kids. Well, if people want to be respected for their child-free choice (and they should) those who choose otherwise deserve respect as well. And since US births are still below population replacement level (as in much of the industrialized world) it's not harming anyone else. They pay for their own kids (debt-free, with money they've earned in the past as well as money they make pimping out to TV) so they're not even draining government programs. Or is turnabout fair play? (i.e. You don't want child-free criticized but do want to criticize those who have many children?) Peace Lover should mind her own business and so should everyone else; having children is the decision made between the people having them and people should mind their own business about it.
I want children someday (hell, I'm only 22) but ZOMG! I realize not everyone else is like me. Radical notion, I know, "peacelover".
Watch the Duggars sometime. Whenever they go shopping, they clean the place out leaving almost nothing for other customers to buy. Everytime they go out they expect everyone who crosses their path to accommodate them. Once of the most egocentric families I've ever seen. Even when they do go to "help" others it's more about their own righteousness than about other people's needs. I was disgusted to see them parading some poor Central American family across the screen, and showing the whole world their private business. The mom looked more embarrassed than grateful. They're about as selfish as they come.
As for me, being child free, I've shelled out thousands in baby shower gifts for family and friends, and presents for my nieces and nephews, and given up countless hours of my time to babysitting, getting very little in return (not counting hugs and thank-yous). So how am I the selfish one again?
I kinda hate you right now, even though hatred is normally against my nature.
My husband and I have tried for years and years to have a child. The only time we succeeded to get pregnant, it ended in a miscarriage in week 11.
In what way are we unethical, selfish or sickening, Mr or Ms PeaceLover02?
Who are you to judge people who are child free/childless? What do you know about the reasons for their child-freedom or childlessness?
Did I mention I hate you right now?
Are you as peace loving as I am, perchance? Do you abhor war, murder, violence, weapons, capital punishments, etc?
Because when I met my wife, she had already had her own child and a great career, and was in her 40s.
As I didn't want to take away from her career, nor to have the ever-increasing chance that any child we had would have some sort of birth defects, that was our choice to make.
So eff you and the horse you rode in on. Feel free to keep your belief, but don't expect me to have any sort of care of how you view our marriage.
I don't agree with PeaceLover02's comment - and I've never wanted to have kids - but the "child frees" are crazier than ape shit. On their forums they go on and on about how much they hate ALL children and ALL parents. They have entire threads about how terrible it is that they have to see children in public. Then they whine about how persecuted they are (which reminds me a lot of the fundies, actually). I'm kind of surprised that no quotes from "child free" forums have ended up here.
“What are the ethics of child free couples?”
Mind your business?
“I personally believe it is unethical to be "child free".”
Um, unethical behavior requires a victim, real or hypothetical. Who is harmed by a couple choosing to remain child-free?
“I believe it is selfish”
Who is denied by the choice?
The God who could just zap a baby into the couple if that was the plan?
The baby who doesn’t exist?
“and frankly quite sickening.”
What business is it of yours and why in the name of the Purple People Eater do you judge them? Sickening? Jesus fucking Christ.
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