Responding to the question:
"Do you mean that you can experience these things after death? Could you provide evidence for this? Without invoking scripture?"
E=Mc2
Einstein proved that energy can never die or disappear but it can change forms. Although Einstein didn't believe in God, his theory could suggest life after death.
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Wow, extrapolating a flawed spiritual interpretation of E=mc² from a flawed physical understanding of E=mc². Admit it, you're just bullshitting to justify a belief you're unsure about because considering other possibilities scares the shit out of you.
Fuck it, lets just latch onto a term we have no idea of the actual meaning of, and say... hey, it has energy in it, that means there is life after death.
Similarly, cheeseburgers prove the existance of aliens. Same logic.
You. Are. Wrong. Oh, so wrong.
Not to mention more than just a little dense. You cannot take one theory or formula and force feed it into another just because you want to.
Einstein proved that energy can never die or disappear but it can change forms.
No he didn't. He postulated that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, just changed from one form to the other.
Either way, those little energetic neurons in your brain are going to stop firing after you're dead whether you like it or not.
errr, no. That refers to the relationship between energy and matter. When you die the mass in your body will be converted to energy for other life forms. If Einstein's theory suggested an afterlife because energy cannot be destroyed then we'd constantly be losing massive amounts of energy to 'heaven' or some other sort of afterlife until life was no longer sustainable due to a lack of energy (some indefinite amount of time in the far off future since the amount of energy that passes on to an afterlife is uknown in this stupid situation).
I thought I was educated, but can someone please explain to me what E=MC² has to do with the Laws of Conservation of Energy? Energy can change forms, yes. So, when you die, your kinetic energy reverts to Potential Energy, and when your body is cremated, it's converted to Heat (or conversely, buried and converted to Chemical Potential)
Anyway, wouldn't this actually be an argument for reincarnation if it was correct. If our 'life energy' can't be destroyed, hence there was life after death, then it can't be created either, hence there was life before death.
If we tentatively ascribe the word 'soul' to this life energy, then our soul was presumably around before we were born and will still be around after we die. One assumes (from Lauren's argument) in a somewhat different form.
I think I was previously a pirate. It'd explain my extremely negative reaction to the prospect of global warming.
The Theory Of Relativity doesn't work that way!!
Perhaps it would be more beneficial to your point if you were to actually develop some understanding of science before commenting on it, yes?
David B: "If we tentatively ascribe the word 'soul' to this life energy, then our soul was presumably around before we were born and will still be around after we die."
Not necessarily. A soul could be an emergent property produced by the brain's physical functions. If the "soul" is dependent on the brain functioning in order to exist than it would disappear upon death.
Even if it didn't and instead floated away like a wisp of smoke it wouldn't hold any memories since those are stored physically, it wouldn't hold your personality since that is a function of brain chemistry, basically it wouldn't really be you. It's analogous to the electrons running through your computer, while they're running through your processor, transmitting data back and forth etc, the electrons "become" your computer. The structure that the electrons exhibit is sort of like an emergent property that result in your functioning computer. So it's like the structure of the electrons is like the computer's soul. Alone however, the electrons exhibit no structure (well, none that is meaningful for computers).
I hope that made sense, I'm just sort of thinking out loud.
Didn't Einstein once muse that because of Conservation of Mass and Energy, reincarnation in some form might be possible? As in, the stuff that makes "You" is used in another person, or persons?
Even then, it doesn't at all vindicate your personal belief system, Lauren, so go stuff it.
Mass can turn into energy.
Energy can be turned back in to mass.
That doesn't mean you can live forever. Dumbass.
"energy can never die or disappear but it can change forms. "
Sure, after death we'll be resurrected as heat. We'll be in the company of Dark Matter and Anti-Matter, so you just know we'll have a jolly good time.
The energy in our bodies first escape as heat, that is why dead bodies are always cold. The rest of the energy is consumed by worms, molds, and bacteria.
Confused?
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