Re: I love it when Tumblr Feminists and the usual suspects say men won't help themselves. These young guys from #MENchester raise money for Male DV Victims, and their children.

(BlueOrange22)
Anti-MRA employs classic manipulative tactics- first they say the MRM isn't necessary because feminism "helps men to." But then, when you point out the things feminists do that hurt men (gendered DV laws, etc) or the issues they ignore (conscription), they say "oh, well feminism isn't about men."

(fyrie)
Feminists falsely claim feminism is also about men

When men need help feminism ignores the issue

When men help themselves feminism purposefully try and negate the effort

(armaadi)
Then they say, "if you care so much about men, do something about it". Then they get ticked off at MRAs for doing something about it..

(89peters)
Australia hosted the first ever large MRA rally a few days ago. Hundreds of men and women attended. Subjects discussed included the demonization of men, discrimination against boys in school, discrimination against male victims of domestic violence, and the importance of recognizing that males and females should not be at war with each other; nature designed us to be symbiotic. If you harm men you harm women, and if you harm women you harm men. That was the message.

How did feminists respond?

They organized a "counter-march" and tried to drown out the speakers using megaphones and inane chants. One of the chants was "Racist sexist anti-queer, MRA's not welcome here!" This suggests that they haven't even bothered to study the men's rights movement. Anti-gay and racist sentiment are vanishingly rare in the MRM. Ditto misogyny. Many MRAs, including myself, used to consider themselves feminists until they looked at the hard data. I oppose feminism precisely because I support gender equality.

The woman who organized the men's march down under is indeed right wing. She's a Trump supporter. I'm more of a "radical leftist" type, the kind of person Jordan Peterson warns you about. But you know what? I don't fucking care if she is right wing. The rally was non-partisan, and the speakers discussed important issues that most leftists are currently ignoring or attempting to justify.

We cannot continue to pretend as though feminism is a movement for gender equality. It more closely resembles a hate movement. I would not be surprised at all if, within 20 years or so, feminists are regarded in the same way we now regard the Ku Klux Klan.

(Fortnite_FaceBlaster)
Yea, people call me an "MRA" in a negative fashion, as if that's supposed to dismiss anything I have to say.

(armaadi)
They think if they dismiss you as a person they dont have to defend their arguments.

(LEGALinSCCCA)
This is how one "always wins". It's basically the terroristic way of dealing with life. And it causes cognitive dissonance to an extreme. Because they know they're wrong. But refuse to accept it. Which makes them dig in.

(PeonSupreme)
Feminists disrupt, impede and interfere with men’s efforts to form communities amongst themselves, separate and apart from women. They mistakenly believe a weak man poses less of a threat than a strong one.