The British public are a bunch of pansies. Why should we expect their armed forces to be any different? What a difference that 25 years can make.
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The american public are a bunch of homophobic, semi-literate, bible thumping, SUV driving assholes.
As a member of the British public, I can tell you that I am not a pansy, and that our army is better than your army, as evidenced by the fact that our army manages not to shoot members of yours and not vice versa.
Dear UK,
Okay, for my Friday night entertainment this week, I say we pit oldbetang against the entirety of the British armed forces. They're pansies, so he should have no problem, right?
Say that to a Geordie/Scouse/Londener, or a member of the SAS I dare you...I double dare you. Shame Lenny McClean (probably spelt his name wrong)isn't alive anymore, would have been fun to see oldbetang call him a pansy to his face.
Where has this "blame the captive" mentality that seems to be cropping up in recent years come from? Jill Carroll and that Fox News crew got the same crap -- rather than being glad they were released, a certain vocal minority (led by a big chunk of the conservative commentariat) accused them of being treasonous. To listen to some of these people, you'd think compassion was dead in the United States.
When I was stationed in Northern Ireland in the '70s with the Brit Army, I once saw a sergeant carrying a wounded private get shot in the calf. he stumbled to one knee, asked the private to grab his leg and put pressure on the wound, then stood up and walked the rest of the way to the convoy and cover, about 120-130 yards. He had to stagger because the private, who had been shot in the belly, was clamping both hands over his sergeant's wound and this restricted the range of motion in his leg. The entire time the IRA sniper continued to fire at him. Three more Brit soldiers attempted to get to them to help, but the sergeant ordered us to stay under cover. The sniper was eventually located and pinned down and the soldiers (one of which was me, by the way) relieved the sergeant of his burden and carried him and the private the remaining 20 or so yards to the lorries. The bullet had actually cracked the sergeant's tibia, yet he not only continued to walk on it, he continued to carry another soldier as well.
Present a list of wars fought since 1946 by
"They almost kicked our asses back in the 1700s"
By the way, any Americans who are apologising for this total arse, you don't have to, don't worry. We wouldn't judge Americans by one gobshite.
Yeah, because after all, their armed forces basically conquered enough land that the sun did not set on it entirely. Real pussies there. I guess this guy has never seen how the SAS use "milling" to test potential recruits, eh?
I was here when WWII started, and the UK military has always struck me as the quintessence of cool. Utterly unflapable. During WWI the Germans referred to the kilted Scots, who went into battle with bagpipes blaring, as "the ladies from hell." And I wonder how oldbetang would have stood up under nightly bombings, as the Londoners did.
"Let's Look At This....", don't be such a dick. The US won the Cold War. The UK relied on American nukes to be a viable threat during the Cold War. The UK participated in Korea. Vietnam began with us cleaning up France's mess. We didn't start it. Kosovo was simply a peacekeeping mission that we did as a part of NATO. The US wasn't the primary force. In fact, NONE of what you listed was ever a war.
Americans love to tell the Brits that "if it weren't for the USA, you would all be speaking German".
Ooooooooooh, I know what we can do with Oldbetang... ship him off to anywhere in England (a nice little town'll do, even though a big city like London would be better), and sell tickets to have people prove him wrong! Profit and entertainment in one go!
The US won the Cold War how fucking convenient that your bullshit list starts in 1946, isn't it? How convenient that you ignore the American role in both World Wars. How cowardly, really.
Remember that the Brits fought hard to hold the line for several years in both cases before the Americans finally showed up to help out. It's not a clear cut issue; the American interventions can be said to have rescued the situation, but be careful not to act as if this means everything the Brits had done to hold on up to that point didn't count.
And honestly, were Colonial Americans supposed to wait patiently for the British Empire to stop fucking around with other countries before we fought for independence? We're somehow less honorable because the British Army was overextended by its own free will?
Not at all. But he's saying you shouldn't use it to claim the American military was stronger than the British just because they won, because the British were at a disadvantage. Besides, I could very easily turn your WWI/II argument against you and recall that the revolutionaries were helped out by the French in a similar manner.
Define "won", TheMissus. As far as I can tell, it was a draw. Nukes fired in anger by either side: 0.Easy. The United States still exists and the USSR was bankrupted into collapse. The Cold War, by definition, didn't have outright hostilities.
Remember that the Brits fought hard to hold the line for several years in both cases before the Americans finally showed up to help out. It's not a clear cut issue; the American interventions can be said to have rescued the situation, but be careful not to act as if this means everything the Brits had done to hold on up to that point didn't count.
I wasn't discounting the British military. Unlike the person I was responding to, I don't feel a need to cut down the other country's military just to make my own look better. Nevertheless, it's highly conspicuous that his little "list" started in 1946, don't you think?
Not at all. But he's saying you shouldn't use it to claim the American military was stronger than the British just because they won, because the British were at a disadvantage. Besides, I could very easily turn your WWI/II argument against you and recall that the revolutionaries were helped out by the French in a similar manner.
He criticized American honor and fair fighting. The Colonials were not to blame because the British consciously weakened their military by overextending it.
We depended on the French for our independence. We in turn helped the French in both World Wars. We also helped Britain in the World Wars. We've since been helped in subsequent military engagements. That's the whole point of military alliances. We depend on each other. We help each other. Purposely distorting historical fact and questioning our honor does nothing constructive. If all you can do is throw insults, you're no better than the fundies.
Good Lord....rugby. The sport of insane Welshmen! Rugby players consider American pro football players to be utter wimps hiding inside all those pads and helmets. If you want to see a group of utterly tough bastiches, take a look at the All-Blacks.his ear. Aparently someone had stepped on it in the scrum and it had come off. At the end of the play the players all went out to look for it.
They never did find the ear.
Now that's a sport!
Good Lord....rugby. The sport of insane Welshmen! Rugby players consider American pro football players to be utter wimps hiding inside all those pads and helmets
Those "pansies" you're referring to happen to be our strongest allies. Way to show your gratitude, you stupid, ignorant twit. Why don't you take a trip to Iraq some day, it might make you rethink your statement.
Not all that long ago the Royal Navy - by definition, not the fittest or hardest of the military services- used to have a fun and exciting sport called "Field Gun Running", where two teams of "pansies" stripped a 2 ton field gun, carried the pieces across various obstacles, re-assembled it, fired a couple of shots, stripped it again and reversed their course.
oldbetang wouldn't last 30 seconds in a British Junior School Playground, never mind the armed forces.
Come over here, walk into any pub and say that!
Don't forget you need medical insurance in this country if you are not from the EU.
@ Sandman:
Hey, hey, hey ... Hold on now. "Insane Welshmen"?
(Thinks of her two rugby playing cousins)
Okay, yeah, you're right. Carry on.
(My last name, and theirs, is pretty much the Welsh equivalent of "Smith" over here. No, not Jones - that was my other uncle. ;} )
"The British public are a bunch of pansies. Why should we expect their armed forces to be any different?"
The same could be said of the American public. What is an Internet Keyboard Warrior? A miserable little pile of pimples and manchild wish fulfillments. [/"Castlevania"]
WWII. The Battle of Britain. 'The Few' against the vastly superior Luftwaffe. The RAF made Hitler cack himself over the thought of invading my country. In 194 0.
No USA required.
And who was it that North American Aviation approached for an engine for their P-51 Mustang fighter? Yes, that's right: Rolls-Royce. Of Britain . For the licence to make the V-12 Merlin engine. The same engine that powered the Supermarine Spitfires & Hawker Hurricanes - piloted by 'The Few' - that made Hitler shit himself by making his Luftwaffe inferior .
Dunno if this is it , but I heard of a documentary in which the best US Marines were invited to do the assault course at the Foreign Legion training camp in French Guyana.
The best of said marine(s) completed such in two hours; the worst of them ultimately completed it in seven hours. The Legionnaires' record is 45 minutes .
Post-WWII French armed forces have the attitude of 'Never Again!'. The French navy is on a par with the former Soviet Red Banner fleet. The French air force is equal to that of any European country's. France has the only nuclear arsenal that isn't under NATO (i.e. US) control. The insult of the French, 'Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys' has been completely annihilated.
Ever hear of the SAS, pal? Even the Navy SEALS respect them.
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