The mistake? that people like you have made is to assume that nylon is "an absolutely artificial product created by man". It consists of the same elements as everything else which are designed interchangeable nanoparts and as such can be digested. No evolution is needed for that.
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Then why can't I digest cellulose? It's almost identical to starch, after all. Both are glucose polymers. By that token, I shouldn't need to evolve any special enzymes to digest it. I should be able to digest it already.
If that were the case, any bacteria could digest it. But only the bacteria that live in the waste pools can. And they do it using an enzyme not found in any other bacteria. And we know what the mutation was that created the enzyme. It involved duplicating a gene (a mutation that sometimes happens accidentally during cell division) followed by a mutation in the duplicate. And just because things are made from the same atoms doesn't mean they can be digested. You'd soon discover that if you tried to eat the sodium and the chlorine in table salt separately.
"The mistake? that people like you have made is to assume that nylon is "an absolutely artificial product created by man"."
Nylon was created by DuPont in 1935. If you think otherwise then please show me a source of naturally occurring nylon.
"It consists of the same elements as everything else which are designed interchangeable nanoparts and as such can be digested."
I challenge you to subsist on nothing buy nylon or its constituent components for one full year.
"No evolution is needed for that."
To digest nylon? I'd say quite a lot of evolution would be needed for that.
I thought nylon was synthetic. Synthetic means man-made, not of natural origin.
After googling nylon I discovered that it was first produced on Feb 28th, 1935 by DuPont.
Do what you want, but I have not desire to eat or digest nylon.
I think what they were trying to say was that everything in the universe is naturally occuring??? Like because everything's made from... Well... Everything.
But if that was the point they were trying to make, I don't understand what evolution has to do with nylon.
@Mitch: It has to do with evolution due to the Nylonase bacteria. It was discovered in a pond containing waste water from a nearby nylon manufacturing plant by Japanese scientists back in 1975.
The bacteria can digest certain types of byproducts from the manufacturing process. They had to have evolved the ability to do so due to the fact that what they can digest didn't exist prior to 1935.
Not the same bacteria, a variation of an earlier one.
Now where does variation occur and actually is predicted to occur?
So every element is designed to work with all others? Like naturally occuring Nitroglycerin, dynamite or napalm?
Many elements are opposed (physically not mentally) at their basic level to mixing with others. That related bacteria I spoke of? Avoids Nylon and will die in that enviroment
By that token, nothing is artificial.
Cool! That means I can take a canister of computer parts and sell it as "all natural ingredients"!
Sure, go find me a nylon tree, or a vein of naturally occuring nylon deep underground.
Better yet (and not impossible) eat and digest a nylon sandwich, I'd pay to watch that!
While he could argue that nylon is "natural" i.e., able to be made through processes understood to be part of the observable world around us, I am very sure this poor boy isn't trying to make that asinine claim. Let alone any claim the could be "technically" correct about no evolution being needed to metabolize nylon.
Incidentally, I'd dig being able to break down cellulose. I think I could deal with bad cases of the runs if it meant having to eat half as much.
No. That specific worm evolved to eat nylon. Other creatures cannot digest it, because other creatures can't break it down. Arrangement and exact composition of compounds is very very important, as it determines all the properties of that compound.
Just because it is made of the same elements does not mean it can readily be broken down, let alone the energy from the process be used biologically. There's a reason it takes plastic forever to break down, and even then in most cases it's only physically, into microscopic pieces.
Translation:
I read a story about Eli Whitney once, and if he can turn cotton into liquor with a cotton gin, then my Intelligent Designer can make Beefaroni out of old socks.
edit: No offense meant to "bob's"
With a name like "Seekmosttoprophesy," did you expect a MENSA candidate? No, this is the screen name of someone who was homeschooled.
The proper response to this kind of statement is, "That's nice, but I wanted a #2 combo."
Cool!
You can eat nylon!
I have a bunch of it here, wanna have lunch? Free, no cost to you, I really want to see you eat and digest nylon in large quantities.
[The mistake? that people like you have made is to assume that nylon is "an absolutely artificial product created by man".]
OK. Show us a natural source of nylon.
[It consists of the same elements as everything else which are designed interchangeable nanoparts and as such can be digested.]
By that logic, anything can be digested for food. I dare you to live off of nylon for a month.
I invite you to ingest, and then digest, a large hank of nylon rope. Go ahead, use any condinments you'd like.
Nylon had to be created in a laboratory, which you would have known if you looked it up. This statement is as valid as saying "computers are found in nature".
The only thing natural here is your stupidity.
Here is another natural element that is far simpler in design than nylon. Why don't you ingest a large quantity and see what happens
Name: Arsenic
well. in some way its true, cuz... where you can find the materials needed to make nylon beside nature???
everything (even steel which is mostly iron) comes from nature... did i make myself clear???
Dude, you don't digest elements (or atoms, I think, is what you mean). Digestion is the act of breaking down molecules (like sugars and proteins).
Nylon may be built out of the same atoms as other molecules, but that means nothing if those atoms have never before existed in the particular configuration of a nylon molecule.
And they didn't, until humans came along and learned how to manipulate atoms (chemistry - it works, bitches).
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