"Thou shalt not make any graven image nor any likeness of any thing that is in heavan above on the earth below or in the seas beneath the earth."
This, to me, could not be clearer. To take a photo is sinful, against the will of God. I am not saying stop taking pictures or God will reject you, I dont think He is putting picture taking at the top of His priority list in His relationship with you. But for Chrit's sake brethren, ADMIT that photographs are sinful. Maybe we would be spiritually much better off if we lived in the absence of likeness' or with minimal likeness' in our lives? [emphasis added]
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Yeah, sinning and knowing it is far less a crime than sinning without knowing. I'm sure the judge will fall for it.
I was planning to bash his head in and knew he would die, but I feel better and it's less bad because I planned it. It wasn't done with ignorance of the risks for him. I'm sure something will improve in my life.
What I was fearing most. Once you said that homosexuality is a sin because of the Bible, now it´s taking photos. Ok, what´s next?, eating lobster?(which I adore)or wearing my lovely half silk half fabrics I have?
Better destroy all mirrors and reflective surfaces like windows too, just in case somebody walks past one. All coins and notes with pictures of famous people must be recalled and destroyed. Oh, and televisions and cinema, they've got to go - even recordings of people's voices are probably over the line, so that's radios and telephones out too. Mona Lisa? Burn it.
Come to think of it, isn't an inverted image formed on the backs of the eyeballs...
Actually there's a bit of a point to what he says, and it is NOT what he'd like you to think.
With no image to record what someone looked like, or even who they actually were(since two people will almost always have defining characteristics) it makes it very easy to change something that happened.
It's a revisionist's cream dream, take anything good associated with a person, grab some things from other people, and toss them into your person.
No one can really prove much without images of a person to prove they existed, at least to the typical person. Really they don't prove anything, but that's my relativism flaring up again.
Uh-oh. Better stay off the Internet, then. It's full of images.
BTW, anyone here registered at JREF Forum? I'm too lazy to bother registering myself, but I'm betting this nimrod has a photo posted in his profile, and I wondered if anyone can confirm that?
Dear C M first of all graven images are sculptures- OK maybe also bas-reliefs. To add just a little reality to the mix the first commandment refers to making a graphic representation of God, a practice that was common in the Mid East at the time. (Besides that photographs capture your soul and if the photo is destroyed you die. BWAHAHAHAHA)
If you truly believe taking photos is sinful, what kind of Christian are you to not advocate the ceasation of picture taking? In your own Bible Jesus says that the smallest sin is equal to the greatest sin. And, an omnipotent being would not need a priority list as he would be able to deal effectively with even the smallest detail. I say that if you are a "Bible-believing Christian" you have to believe that taking photos could land you in hell.
I loved the next comment down from this one: "Actually, CM, the problem is that when you take someone's photo, you capture a bit of their soul. That is why there are so few people nowadays who believe in God. Over the years of picture taking by parents and well meaning family and friends, their souls have just been sucked away. They have no way to recognize the divine anymore."
I thought the "graven image" restriction applied only to images that were to be representative of God (or any other god) -- in other words, idols. I have never heard of the passage being interpreted to mean ANY image of ANY kind of ANY thing.
Shoot, you would even have to do away with written language if you followed such an exhaustive restriction against "graven images" as referring to anything representational. That might make it a wee bit difficult to read the Bible or post on the Internet, don't you think?
~David D.G.
God has a priority list?
Jot that sucker down for us, would you? Oh, and make sure EVERY biblical law is included, if you would.
(That should keep him busy for the next 10 years or so...)
The passage continues on by saying "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them"(Exodus 20:5). So I guess, yeah, if you take a photograph, then bow down to it and serve it, you're violating one of the Commandments (the first, if you're Catholic, the second if you're Protestant).
By the way, this post is a good illustration of why we don't let Protestant fundies post the Ten Commandments in schools or court houses. There have literally been wars fought over the interpretation of this Commandment.
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12/1/2006 6:32:09 PM
"I don't see what's particularly fundie about obeying the bible properly, except insofar as being religious is."
So toss a stripey stick down in front of your dog next time he/she's doin' it. Straight out of the Bible Breeding Manual.
Actually a graven image is ANY man-made image. Like the image that forms in your mind as you read the bible. (Like stripey sticks=stripey offspring.)
Actually, this is consistent with the commandment, is it not? Never mind the fact that (fundie) Christians pick and choose, and mostly take issue with images of God only (like icons in Catholic and Orthodox churches). I know Christians who wouldn't see the Passion of the Christ solely for this "reason." But if they were consistent, all movies, photos, paintings, scultpures etc would be sinful.
Nedraed - Look at this way. Us Canadians have this turd, while the states get stuck with bro. randy. I feel they cancel each other out.
This guy is probably just bitter because he's one of those guys that always ends up getting a finger in the shot, and is generally a shitty photographer.
Just do us a favor, and give us a list of things that are not sinful It'll be shorter, and waste less of all of our time.
(Waitaminit...Canadian? Oh lord he's ours, too...)
Exodus XX:4. Why stop there, though? The very next verse (XX:5) explains the forbidden purpose: "to bow down unto them", that is, to create idols.
Do you think the Sistine Chapel is the work of the Devil?..
What Exodus condemns is simply the worship of false gods. Read your effin' Bible, don't just pick and choose what to believe...
Oh, right, I forgot you Fundies abide by an Eleventh Commandment: Thou shall twist, bent and misconstrue the Word of God diligently, creatively and delusionally.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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