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Wendy Moir #fundie forums.randi.org

NASA believes that the Sun a radiated body caused life on Earth, yet ancient documentation states that Light created life, not evil.

Sun worship, a burning body of energy light sound forms evil burnt bodies of radiation. Radiation attacked the Earth and caused her atmosphere to fall out as per ancient literature explains.

Radiation is supposed to be the result of origin creation as per scientific literature updates, yet origin creation quantifies that it was destroyed and transformed via our own awareness as conscious receiver of information, hence radiation the evil burnt body did not create life as previously supposed. Sun worship was therefore stopped as a religious practice.

By ancient religious version the previous Heaven Earth atmosphere was attacked by the Sun (Satan), and the Christ act (Oxygen) saved the life of Earth by stopping the radiation burn releasing a huge volume of water onto Planet Earth, causing radiation (Satan) to fall into the Earth body (stone). The empty atmosphere around the planet cut off the radiation attack of Earth.

Oxygen was created as the Christ Act in the previous origin formed atmosphere, and when the earth's volcanic eruptions released gases and vapor, the atmosphere was replaced from its act of destruction as fall out. Human remains pre dating the dinosaur era has proven this via archaeological discovery in coal bodies. Radiation burning the previous nature on Earth evidence of the coal beds containing human implements. Volcanic eruptions replaced the Earth face with new stone.

Oxygen therefore became the new atmospheric spirit of creation. Oxygen as a mass body therefore protects us from radiation attacking us as per documentation. Radiation quantifies that it is used by science to destroy cells allowing healthy cells to continue to produce.

If our consciousness, the state of our personal awareness believed that radiation created us, why would it protect its own body from radiation pollution when dealing with cancer victims? As consciousness demonstrates to advise us, it seems it already does.

Science looking for new creation theories are involved in the current day dilemma of falling out UFO bodies in their attempt to study the evolution of cellular matter. Believing in the radioactive creator theory (evil spirit) is therefore a new science theory proposed by the occult scientists.

NASA has demonstrated occult science exploration along with the Catholic Church........what else is there to say?

PeaceCrusader #fundie forums.randi.org

Pontius Pilate was a "golem". Jesus Christ created him from clay called “pila” similar to Him, and given life, when He was 12 years old, that is why he was called “Pilate” or in Filipino, “Pilato”. According to Ama, “Pilato” is “pila ito” or “this is pila”. Pila is a type of clay in the Philippines used to make earthenware. There is a town in Laguna province called Pila. Please read http://aristean.org/wp085.htm titled “Taken from the Jews”.

It is only the true God that can give life, eternal life. You and me are given life by the true God, and not by our parents because they are just soil, believe it or not.

Janadele #fundie #homophobia forums.randi.org

There is absolutely NO circumstance which would warrant the adoption or fostering of children, or of fertility treatments, to enable those involved in the evil satanic practices of sodomy, homosexual activities, and all and any other sexual perversions... to provide a "role model", "example" and "parental" influences to the minds and emotional health of babies /children / youth, and to pollute the minds, spirit, and emotional health of the innocent.
The destructive nature of homosexuality and its related behaviours have devastating effects, not only for mortality, but far into the eternities... as chances to progress are forever lost.

allseeingeyes1495 #conspiracy forums.randi.org

WTC Attacks not 911 in fact are 711

I've new information which proves that the WTC should never be called 911.

September is the 7th month in the Roman Calendar which makes it 711.

Pope Pius VII met with Napoleon (1st antichrist)
Pope Pius XI met with Hitler (2nd antichrist)

New York was targeted because it's 11th state in the union
and Twin Towers because they had seven towers (711).

Why 711? Because King David had 11 children from 7 different wives (711).

Seventh Prophet in the Torah is Ezekiel:

Ezekiel 7:11 reads "Violence has arisen, a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left, none of that crowd—none of their wealth,
nothing of value."

Paul Bethke #fundie forums.randi.org

So a young girl (in your words, thirteen or younger) who has had sex must remain with the man she had sex with? Even if the only reason a girl that young has had sex is because she was raped?

Wow. That's really twisted.

I also note that your precious commandments do not forbid rape (and don't give me the adultery crap again; it's irrelevant unless you erroneously assume that every woman ever born has had sex at birth).


You are the one who has got every thing twisted.
Your assumptions are incorrect—get the facts right before you jump to conclusions!!

Rape is punishable by death—so if a thirteen year old girl or younger is raped—the rapist must die—so when the rapist is put to death—the girl can marry some one of her choice.
While the rapist is alive the girl will be committing adultery.

DOC #fundie forums.randi.org

referring to an article about floating a mouse in a magnetic field, link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1559579/Physicists-have-solved-mystery-of-levitation.html


Since this article says scientists have said levitation of a person is possible in theory this greatly increases the likelihood that the NT writers were telling the truth when they reported Christ walked on water and Christ ascended into heaven.

bwinwright #conspiracy forums.randi.org

Glen Beck is in the mainstream media, therefore he has to be a puppet doing exactly as he is instructed. Whatever the real truth may be, we certainly won't be getting it from Glen Beck. Alex Jones is afraid to talk about the Jesuit connection to virtually everything diabolical over the past 100 years, as is every other person in either the mainstream or alternative media. Let's face it, the disinformation and misinformation experts in Operation Mockingbird, as well as all the others carefully trained by the Tavistock Institute have done a fantastic job of keeping us confused and off balance, afraid to even mention the truth for fear of another vicious attack. While this forum has some of the brightest people in the world contributing to it, this forum also has more disinformation specialists watching and offering their carefully constructed deceit too. I love visiting this forum just to dance around the vipers here.

Radrook #fundie forums.randi.org

[On a disucssion on why God didn't give humans more resources... or something]

Forumer: What fraction of the Earth is habitable?

Radrook: This wasn't his original design. What you are seeing is a consequence of the fall. From a biblical standpoint-of course.

Heiwa #conspiracy forums.randi.org

"So nobody managed to do the experiment! To fat to get up 3.7 m on a ladder? Eaten too many pizzas? Didn't dare to jump? Or no bathroom scale or ladder at home? Homeless? Bank took the scale? You are broke? In the street? No bathroom?

Regardless - one purpose of the experiment was just to show that it was very unlikely that the upper block of WTC1 climbed up 3.7 m on a ladder and then jumped! Anybody suggesting the contrary is a con man.

I know you will argue that the upper block was already at the top of the ladder and that Usama Bin Laden suddenly removed the ladder, so that the upper block just dropped, but it is evidently ridiculous. UBL was hiding in a cave somewhere.

Another purpose of the experiment was to show that if anybody is so stupid to jump from 3.7 m on a scale, anybody will get hurt unless anybody is Bazant that crushes the scale and unhurt passes through the bathroom floor on his way somewhere. Bazant is indestructible (rigid) until he comes down on Earth. Only then Bazant is crushed-up.

But Bazant has not yet arrived on Earth. He is still floating in his ivory tower, suspended in fantasy. The NWO hoodlums love him and keep him afloat.

But one day Bazant will drop to the ground and get hurt.

Anyway - thanks for your assistance to debunk Bazant. It was a pleasure to do it and I am glad nobody got hurt."

Radrook #fundie forums.randi.org

[I don't know if anyone else has already asked in this thread, but, Radrook, why are/were there such terrible things in our world if God is standing by? Why are people killed by tsunamis [list of calamities and other horrors snipped by submitter]]

Tsunamis are an example of how the earth behaves when not under God's total supervision. Human stupidity of course contributes to the disasters since humans insist on making their living quarters next to such things as volcanoes, rivers that are known to regularly flood, areas known to be tornado highways, etcetera.

hamelekim #fundie forums.randi.org

Responding to "There isn't any historical evidence that the Israelites were ever slaves in Egypt, for instance.:

And? Just because evidence hasn't been found, or has been interpreted wrongly, doesn't mean it isn't true. My faith isn't based on scientific evidence, I don't need that to know that the Bible is true.

Our entire historical record is a joke, especially when it comes to ancient history. There is so much information lacking, and so many personal agendas in archeology, that we will never come to the real truth.

Sunni Man #racist forums.randi.org

[about the holocaust Sunni writes]

I don't believe that the Holocaust happened. Yes the Jews where put into prison camps. But there were Not 6 million killed.

I feel bad that the Jews were persecuted. It wasn't right.

As for the Gays. Good riddence!

Edge #fundie forums.randi.org

The tall one I take is Penn, he has a demon in him, it's most noticeable at the moment he puts his hand on his heart, that's body language to say he is sincere and knowledgeable, he has cat like pupils.
We have noticed this also in many actors, it is really noticeable when you see them on a big screen remember I said in the past, the eyes are a window to the soul these two have sold their souls for fame and fortune.....

Radrook #fundie forums.randi.org

[Trying to justify God's genocidal Great Flood]

Since you seem to be unfamiliar with he details of the flood account while feeling qualified to delve on its contents let me elucidate you by informing you that the population involved is not described as being totally human. Now I'm assuming you didn't know this little relevant fact. However, if you did and are still defending that genetically contaminated population as worthy of living next to normal humans, then, it becomes a matter of your ethical principles versus God's. And if that is so-then I choose God's.

A-Train #conspiracy forums.randi.org

"Kindly give at least one example, drawing from your huge pool of Jewish and/or non-Jewish witnesses, of the alleged Nazi campaign of genocide.

I am actually a connoisseur of Holocaust stories. They run regularly in the Minneapolis Star Tribune here, and I always read them very closely. Usually they follow the same format, over and over. The "Holocaust survivor" recounts his experiences during the war. What he is quoted as saying is all consistent with what we know happened in WW2. For example, he may describe being sent to Auschwitz and being forced to work on building a road. He may say that his parents were sent to another camp and that he never heard from them again. He may describe hiding in the woods from the Nazis.

All these experiences could be, and very well may be true. The problem is that nowhere in these accounts is there any evidence, or even the assertion made, that the Nazis were engaged in any kind of genocide. We have all been so conditioned by decades of mind conditioning in films, TV shows, literary fiction, school curriculum, and so on, that these experiences occurred within the context of people being exterminated in gas chambers that we subconsciously assume that is the subtext of the stories. It is the editor of the publication that chimes in about the supposed exterminations, filling in the blanks between quotes from the subject.

Meanwhile, the "Holocaust survivor" never bothers to fill us in on awkward facts surrounding his experiences-- such as that his parents were sent to camps not because they were Jews, but because they were accused of swindling (like Anne Frank's father), or that he was chased in the woods by the Germans because he was engaged in partisan guerrilla activities against the Germans on behalf of the Communists, etc.

So, I suggest you try it next time you run across a "survivor" tale in your local newspaper-- which will probably be some time in the next week or so. Examine the words quoted of the survivor in question. Does he ever actually present any testimonial that he witnessed genocide of any kind? Chances are he doesn't, because he didn't. And neither did anyone else."

A-Train #conspiracy forums.randi.org

"No one denies that cremation facilities (ovens) existed at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Cremation is the most sanitary way to dispose of corpses that may be diseased. Birkenau was, strictly speaking, a "death camp," in that it was the facility to which any member of the entire camp system was sent who was terminally ill. The bodies of nearly all those who died in the camp system-- mostly from typhus and other diseases which raged through it-- were sent to Birkenau to be incinerated.

None of those people were intentionally killed by the Germans. Most of them were not Jews. The existence of crematoria does not prove or even demonstrate exterminations of anyone.

Auschwitz was a rubber manufacturing plant. The allies knew intimately from their intelligence resources what was going on inside. They knew there were never any exterminations; that's why they didn't bomb Auschwitz.

The railway lines to Auschwitz were presumably to ship in raw materials and ship out finished product.

Getting back to the ovens at Birkenau, here is a quote from Heinrich Himmler in an interview with a representative of the World Jewish Congress just a few weeks before the end of the war:

Quote:
"In order to put a stop to the epidemics, we were forced to burn the bodies of incalculable numbers of people who had been destroyed by diesease. We were therefore forced to build crematoria, and on this account they are knotting a noose for us."

So the existence of the ovens was a boon for the post-war investigators who used them to begin constructing the Holocaust Legend, and frame the Germans for exterminations that never happened."

radrook #fundie forums.randi.org

[In a discussion on the lack of effectiveness of prayer when faced with tornadoes]

Jesus didn't tell us to call directly on him. He said to call on his father in his name. That's why he refers to himself as the mediator between himself and God.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

So technically, those prayers mentioned on this thread were being directed at the Son while the Son tells us clearly to direct our prayers to his Father in his name. A simple basic teaching-among a host of others-which mysteriously appears to be beyond the comprehension of most who claim to have accurate knowledge.

[Remember that, kids. If you're dumb enough to call the wrong number when calling for help, you deserve to die by tornado.]

Roscoe #conspiracy forums.randi.org

Try this.

Stack four eggs one on top of the other. Glue them together and make a tower out of them. Ensure the structure is stable and will not topple.

Now break the top egg. Hit it with your spoon and similate an aircraft hitting it.

Will the three eggs below the top egg break all the way to the floor?

No because the mass of the top egg will be difused and free to deflect around the shells of the lower eggs.

Exactly like the towers.

DOC #fundie forums.randi.org

You've got a point there. If everyone were atheists I'd be willing to bet sex with any consulting child would be legal. Incest would be legal. All drugs would be legalized. Polygamy would be legal. Homosexual marriages would be allowed. Public sex and nudity would be allowed. Porno would be allowed on all public TV channel that any child could watch. School would be optional at all ages. Handicapped and the mentally ill children would be allowed to be killed by their parents because they would be considered a burden to society. All abortions would be legal at all stages. We'd live in a totally different society. And after the society collapsed, the military would take over and of course it would be run by a ruthless dictator who would run a police state. Yes I'd be willing to bet all these actions would take place eventually.

Thunderfoot #fundie forums.randi.org

Don't loose your faith over some one elses stupitidy. God also gave us our own minds. Just to through this in, the Jehovah's witness is not of the Christian faith as they clam to be. If you will study all the Christian church is baised on the "Father, Son and Holy Ghost". The Jehovah's whitness belive that Jesus was a prophet and not the son of God. This makes them a cult and not a church of the Christian faith.
I had a good friend of mine who lost a child to cancer a few years back. As he talked to me he said he blamed God for his childs death. He said "How can a good and loving God like people say let a child suffer and let them die like God had let his child". I ask him how many time he had taken his child to church or how much he had tried to lead his child to God. He answered, none. I told him not to blame God for something that he had never allowed God to be a part of.

DOC #fundie forums.randi.org

So you are saying that you believe Jewish Children should be taught that Hitler was a Christian. Shouldn't Jews be grateful that our born again Christian president is a ardent supporter of Israel.

DOC #fundie forums.randi.org

Well, having an atheist president would create some embarrassing situations. For example the White House Christmas tree lighting ceremony. I couldn't see an atheist president turning the lights on. And how about the celebration of the basically Christian US holiday of Thanksgiving.

Also the remembrance of the 911 victims was done in a big ceremony at the National Cathedral where the president spoke. That would be awkward.

Peace Crusader #fundie forums.randi.org

[Detailing why a disease called "Gotacural", the subject of a prophecy in 1979, is really AIDS.]

I claim that the GOTACURAL disease is AIDS. Did you know that in 1982 when I first got hold of the prophecies, I was looking for a disease called GOTACURAL? AIDS was not named AIDS then. But there was a great concern because of its mystery, its rapid spread and its being lethal. About later that year, the disease was named AIDS.

In 1984, I haven’t still encountered a disease known as GOTACURAL. This was when I began to suspect that GOTACURAL may be AIDS. My first clue was GOT in the name GOTACURAL which is synonymous to “acquired.” AIDS, as we know it now, is a disease that is acquired, hence, the name. AIDS is the acronym of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.

After GOT, is ACUR. I came to the conclusion that this must mean “without cure,” just like asymmetrical meaning without symmetry, or amoral meaning without moral. The prefix A in a word means “not” or “without.”

The last part in the name GOTACURAL is AL. AL is a suffix meaning “relating to” or “characterized by” like in directional, fictional, hormonal, organizational, spectral, tidal. Therefore, GOTACURAL is a disease characterized by being acquired and without cure. Doesn’t AIDS perfectly fit this description of the name GOTACURAL? It does. And it is spot on!

In 1986, I asked the spirit if the disease He named GOTACURAL in 1979 is AIDS. He answered in the affirmative. I asked if there will be any cure. He replied in the negative. So, no matter how much research will be put into finding a cure for AIDS, I am sorry to say that a cure will never be found.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo

Davidjayjordan #fundie forums.randi.org

There couldn't be a Big Bang, cause it takes two to bang and reproduce. Athiests and evolutionists are so dumb, they think 'one' can bang alone, and then explode into all the Universe, and be fruitful and multiply. We have to teach these nonX'ers about the facts of life, and how to bang in rthymn and harmony.

But then again, it might mean they would reproduce into more non thinking atheists...... and we would have to teach their next generation how to bang again. Darn, they just don't get it.

Jedi Knight #fundie forums.randi.org

With the right-wing, there is moral decisiveness there. Sure the right-wing disagrees with abortion and many disagree with homosexual behavior, but right-wing behavior is really predictable. You can safely judge a person on the right-wing in advance because they will go to the bible and look up the Ten Commandments first before they shock society.

Liberals have no such moral decisiveness. That is why as I think of the future I think the next thing liberals will do is legalize pedophilia (sex with children), abolishment of all religion (the complete humanism of all political ideology), the elimination of male reproductive freedom (all reproduction in females will eventually be inside laboratories) and complete removal from society of all things that penetrate (feminist fear of penetration).

Canadian Malcontent #fundie forums.randi.org

Hey this thread is about mary and pagans and such

The Kabbalists consume menses, brings them closer to God.
I just saw 'The da Vinci Code'-- Women are Divine and 'the Chalice' is a woman's womb and then whats the wine, 'the Blood Of Christ'??
Is it the blood that flows monthly from your womb slingblade?
Is that why the sumerian mushrrom cults that were the the predessesors of Judeao/Christianity had a menstruating Womna squat on the ground all night during full moon mushrtoom season and prized the ;shrooms that grew up beneath Her bleeding vagina?

Canadian Malcontent #fundie forums.randi.org

"Thou shalt not make any graven image nor any likeness of any thing that is in heavan above on the earth below or in the seas beneath the earth."

This, to me, could not be clearer. To take a photo is sinful, against the will of God. I am not saying stop taking pictures or God will reject you, I dont think He is putting picture taking at the top of His priority list in His relationship with you. But for Chrit's sake brethren, ADMIT that photographs are sinful. Maybe we would be spiritually much better off if we lived in the absence of likeness' or with minimal likeness' in our lives? [emphasis added]

Canadian Malcontent #fundie forums.randi.org

So if you guys are all so freaking clever how cum none of you realized that the KJV is from the 1300s not 1610 as suggested above.
There are no real arguments here just nattering over details.
Your submissions beg the granting of innumerable premise' however you collectively grant none to those who are outside your ... uhhh.... mindset.
What I view here is akin to a group of scientologists or nazis doing the support group thing.

Canadian Malcontent #fundie forums.randi.org

With respect to the Bible being a 'source'. The Bible , King James version is THE foundation of the English language, it is HARD-WIRED in your brain, Drs. Doman and Delicato of the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philedelphia have published extensively on this topic. ( that of language being instrumental in shaping the human mind, literally, the synapse and their pathways)
If English is your first language then The Holy Bible is literally the foundation of your mind.
How does that grab you?!

Iacchus #fundie forums.randi.org

['Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that evolution is a constant ongoing process. So in effect it is impossible for any species to be the pinnacle of evolution rather all species that exist today are the most successful at surviving in their current ecosystem.']

In other words we're all equivalent to a bucket of slime? That's kind of what I thought anyway, since we're only capable of "behaving" as if we were real. [wink] It's all a facade you see, for the great big "nothing" which spurred the whole the thing into existence.