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Christians are taking back America!

And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!

America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body.

By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country. Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. The region will be at peace and millions of Arab souls will be saved through the grace of Jesus Christ.

2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.

3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view.

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.

5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.

7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong.

You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing:

Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus.

145 comments

old comment by Axver

Oh for goodness' sake.
1. Laughable. Turn on the news - I mean real news, not Faux News or whatever Cheney tells you - and you'll vividly see that Iraq is currently a quagmire and only looking like it's about to get worse. 2. Baby slaughterhouses? You sure love hyperbole, don't you? 3. Intolerance isn't cool. 4. I don't really know enough on this issue to make a comment. 5. Hah, like the US has much social welfare anyway. Certainly not in comparison to the awesome Scandinavian welfare states. And replacing what is there with nonsense faith based programmes is a disaster waiting to happen. 6. I don't know who Howard Stern is, but as shit as the other two named shows are, they can't be as bad as the "decent Christian family programming" this person surely has in mind. 7. If you actually think you can regulate the Internet and eliminate pornography, you have no grasp on reality or how the Internet works. Wake up and get out of fantasyland, Wanda_for_fuckedup_values!

old comment by Redhunter

"Christians are taking back America!
And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals! You never HAD America, you're not going to get it 'back'. You're probably thinking of Walmart rolling back prices. America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body. By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term: 1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country. Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. The region will be at peace and millions of Arab souls will be saved through the grace of Jesus Christ. You must be shrooming. Oh, of course, christianity is what’s keeping peace from taking hold in the middle east. How could I have been so blind? 2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever. I thought cannibalism was already illegal? 3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view. How motherfucking tolerant of you, asshole. 4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now. So you send your kids to a cesspool? No wonder you talk so much shit. Gross. 5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ. Yeah, he’s done a bang-up job so far. 6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together. Maybe some good and wholesome fare like Passion Of The Christ’ or Dr. Dino’s Tips For Milking The IRS’, or Pat Robertson’s How To Make 500 Million Dollars In the Name of Jebus’. 7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong. You don’t like it? Don’t look at it. Freedom of speech, bitch! You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing: Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus." The gall that you would compare yourself to Rosa Parks. When was the last time christians were whipped, beaten and sold? You are a disgusting attention whore that should be under the next bus. Freedom means that one can do what they want, not that everyone does what you want them to. So shut up before I persecute you across the mouth.

old comment by John

School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.
Parents can already send kids to Christian schools. They just can't make me pay the tuition. And anyone who thinks a wholesale switch to private education will allow Christian schools to continue attracting non-union teachers for $18,000 a year is a fool. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together People can already watch "family friendly" shows. You use this neat little device found on every TV ever made since the 1940's: the channel selector. If people didn't want to watch Desperate Housewives, it wouldn't be shown. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong Pornographers don't "expose" the public - the public goes looking for it. Once again, if you don't like it, don't point your browser to it. Much pornography comes from outside the US anyway. It's not the legitimate job of the government to enforce Christian fundie morals on the rest of us, especially when the Christian fundies are notorious for not practicing what they preach anyway.

old comment by Sandman

Christians are taking back America!

Can’t take “back” what was never actually yours to begin with. I don’t know how many times it will take, but I will keep saying it until you listen: The United States is not a “Christian” nation; we are a multi-ethnic, multi-faith, multi-culture nation and the stronger for it. You can’t force other Americans to be just like you without their consent unless you want to destroy everything our nation stands for.

And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!

When were you kowtowing to these people? Did I miss something? Fundies like you have always raged and railed against anyone fitting those descriptions. If you mean you are tired of having to allow these people the freedom to believe the way they do, well, then that sounds a bit more accurate. I will never understand why you think you can advance liberty by denying liberty.

America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body.

No, we aren’t. never have been, really. We are multi-faith. And the Constitution says it’s gonna stay that way. And why do you want Satanic symbols placed over your dead body? Don’t you think that will send the wrong message to the rest of the Kool-Aid slurpers at church?

By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

The Republican party will have been completely disgraced.

1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country. Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. The region will be at peace and millions of Arab souls will be saved through the grace of Jesus Christ.

The fact that you believe that Iraq will ever be “well on the way” to being a “peaceful Christian nation” shows how very little you know about Iraq. Iraq will never “go Christian,” especially now that we have given them a pretty harsh lesson in what “Christians” are like. Apparently we shoot and kill and torture anyone we don’t like or don’t happen to agree with. The war in Iraq has likely done more to drive these people away from Christianity than anything in history except possibly the Crusades. I’m reminded of the words of Ghandi, ”I like your Christ. I do not so much like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ.”

2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.

Nothing is “forever” in a Democratic society. Even if Bush managed to do this, eventually it would swing back the other way. The will of the people is fickle, and we change our minds faster than Britney Spears does husbands. Besides, outlawing abortion only makes abortion illegal; it doesn’t stop it. If you could stop something by making it illegal, we would have no immigration, drug, or prostitution problems, would we? And Prohibition would have worked, wouldn’t it? By demanding abortion be outlawed, you reveal your true colors. You are not interested in stopping abortion, since making it illegal won’t stop it. Likely won’t even slow it down. You are not actually interested in “saving” babies; you are really only interested in “punishing” the mothers and making yourself feel righteous because you “solved” the problem. Grow up. There is no easy or quick “fix” for what you consider to be the “abortion problem.”

3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view.

Well, you would have to drastically re-write or at least re-interpret the US Constitution to do this, and thankfully there are systems in place to keep people like you from being able to do that. While I appreciate the fact that you have softened the usual fundie approach of “kill them” to one of “keep them hidden,” you still want to deny basic human rights to a not-insignificant portion of the US population. ”I kept silent when they came for the Jews” Remember that one? And frankly, why should you get to determine how I raise my children?

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.

I teach at a Christian school. I have visited/guest-taught/assessed many other Christian schools. The only differences between a Christian and a non-Christian school is that the kids take Religion classes and say grace before lunch. That’s about it. The same science is taught, the same math, the same geography, the same reading, the same games are played in PE, the same teasing goes on, the same bullying, the same cliques exclude others at lunch, the same things are gossiped about on the playground, the same cheating occurs, the same sniping amongst the faculty, the same everything. A good Christian school is no better than a good public one, although the way the Christian one likely pays it’s staff is frankly shameful. That’s the main reason Christian schools have a faculty turn-over rate six times that of public schools.

5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.

Worthless? Then I assume you have never received a flue shot, or visited a school nurse, or gotten tutoring in a school subject. I presume that neither you nor any of your loved ones has ever collected Social Security, or been subscribed to Medicade, Medicare, or Blue Cross/Blue Shield, or used unemployment benefits, or housing assistance, or food stamps, or public transportation, or even the bloody US Postal System. All of those programs and institutions are considered “social” programs. You think the churches are going to start placing nurses in schools? Or providing low-cost health insurance and housing? Or writing checks to retirees? Or delivering the mail? It’s just not going to happen. While there is a place for faith-based organizations to assist in social programs, and there is even a lot of good that can be done with Federal money here, to turn the entirety of the US social services over to the churches (and I assume you mean only the Christian churches, which is whole other Constitutional violation) would be foolish in the extreme. And I’m getting a little tired of the whole the “liberal social welfare programs” are evil thing. The alternative is to make the USA even more of a survival-of-the-fittest culture than it already is. Do you want hundreds of thousands of Americans starving in the streets? Conversely, are you willing to feed an house them all yourself? Or don’t you think that’s what we pay the government for?

6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together.

Well, you got me on the Stern thing. It is a filthy show. I don’t listen to him, myself. Not because he’s filthy, but because I don’t think he’s funny. He has every right to be on the air, especially now that he is on pay subscription only. You don’t like him? Don’t pay to listen to him. Easily solved. But Will & Grace? Housewives? Sure the shows are brainless wastelands of moronic inanity, but that’s not a reason to censor them. Do what I do and flip over to Scrubs. That’s a damn funny show. It’s a simple matter of choice: don’t watch what you don’t like. The TV does have an “off” button you know.

7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong.

You gonna do this by blocking up the “series of tubes?” You obviously have not the slightest clue how the internet works or what it even is. It is international and multi-jurisdictional. Hell, no one is ever really sure who has authority over it, if anyone. It’s not owned or even operated by the United States, more than half of it isn’t even in the United States. To do what you describe would require us to commit to a <GASP> One World Government. You sure you want that? Most of you fundies seem to be kind of against that

You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing: Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus."

Well, I’m a Christian, and I’m gonna have to go with “against you.” And a Christian has never been “back of the bus” in the United States. Unless, of course, you happen to be a black Christian, but that’s a whole different issue, isn’t it?

old comment by SubtleSabotage

America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body.
What? WHAT? That last "sentence" isn't even a sentence. Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. Wow. Good luck with that one, buddy. the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever. Haha, wow. Baby slaughterhouses? I don't think it's quite that horrific. Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives... What's wrong with Will and Grace and Desperate Housewives? The abominable scourge of Internet pornography It's not exactly an "abominable scourge". If you don't like it or don't want your kids looking at it, then either don't look at it or get NetNanny or whatever's out there now. Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus. Oh, you have GOT to be kidding me. Why are you comparing yourself to black people? Do you have any idea how powerful Christianity used to be and how much racism there was and still is towards black people? There's virtually no comparison there. And besides. Homosexuals and Muslims, along with about 500 (exaggeration, btw) other groups of people, are sitting at the back of the bus in America these days, in case you don't know. So shut the fuck up and learn how to deal with it. God is dead.

old comment by cicatrique

Why is it that whenever Christian fundamentalists describe their "perfect world", it is the exact description of my hell?
I doubt that Wanda has any idea what the back of the bus actually feels like. If she did, I doubt this would be her "wonderland" of values. Speaking as someone who has, in fact, sat at the back of the bus, I can tell you that I'm in no hurry to impress my values on other people. The people who preach intolerance are the ones who feel assured that they'll get to decide what's good and what's bad. Thus, they're not the people at the back of the bus. I think Wanda should live in a world where she can't put the symbol of her choice on her spouse's grave. Where she can't legally marry the person she loves. Because *that* is the back of bus. Wanda hasn't seen the back of the bus, because it's hard to from up there on that soapbox of hers. For a God of Love, He's got some hateful, angry, intolerant followers.

old comment by Someone

Fucking hell, reading fundie shit is PISSING ME OFF!!!!!

1. Islam, and it'll stay that way till atheism gets there, or never.

2. I don't think Bush will be alive at the time of your plan implementation. And abortion, no matter how cruel, is still part of the basic rights of a woman. Sexist bastard. And you CAN rely on Bush? Makes yourself even more stupid.

3. Homosexuality is part of the world, idiot. The fact we can be homosexual is that we're intelligent! Don't degrade yourselves.

4. Church schools don't teach you how to count, spell or use logic.

5. And all the minorities will suffer. How lovely...

6. Don't CORRUPT THE MEDIA!

7. Wow, there we have it, the great firewall of America.

8. Sitting on the back of the bus? Lets just hope your ideas change or we'll make sure YOUR end is falling down a cliff.

AND FUCK YOU FOR CORRUPTING THE WORLD WITH YOUR "DECENT" VALUES!

old comment by Jack Bauer

Decent Christian programming (*shudder*):

HUSBAND (entering the home): Hi, honey, I'm home!

WIFE: Praise the lord!

HUSBAND: Where are the kids?

WIFE: In the basement cell, praising the lord. How was your day?

HUSBAND: Didn't get too much done at the office - but I devoted a lot of time to praining the lord.

WIFE: Praise the lord!

HUSBAND: The boss wan't too happy. He told me I had my priorities wrong.

WIFE: He is the spawn of Satan! He will burn for all eternity.

HUSBAND: Praise the lord! By the way - there's a dead body on the front lawn.

WIFE: It's an atheist.

HUSBAND: How do you know?

WIFE: When I opened the door to him, he did not praise the lord.

HUSBAND: He looks a bit like the mail man.

WIFE: Satan's wiles! A disguise! I blessed him in Jesus's name and gave him both barrels of the twelve gauge.

HUSBAND: Double aught buckshot?

WIFE: Yes, blessed by the pastor himself.

HUSBAND: Praise the lord!

old comment by GigaGuess

"Christians are taking back America!"
Neve was yours to begin with...

"And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches..."
Tell that to the nice people of Salem.

"...satanists..."
An incredibly vague term seeing how any non-Christian gets slapped with that title at some point or another.

"...muslims..."
You mean the ones that still get "randomly" screened a the airport?

"...atheists..."
Who you browbeat regularly?

"...homosexuals..."
Who are FINALLY starting to achieve progress in conceivably being seen as something approaching a human being?

"...and socialist liberals!..."
Yes, heavens forbid a government looks after ALL the people, and not just the elite.

"America is a Christian nation..."
Treaty of Tripoli

"...not a nation of witches."
As much as it is Christian. Freedom of Religion?

"Satan symbols over my dead body."
That's nice. Here's a cookie.

"By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.

5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.

You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing:

Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus."

old comment by GigaGuess

"2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever."
And every girl who gets pregnant from rapes will be sure to thank you. And if a girl wants an abortion, she'll get one. The clinics just make sure it gets done safely.

"3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view."
How do you enforce what happens in the bedroom? And where do you live? Where I live, the worst you'll see is two guys holding hands. And thanks to you and your ilk, we rarely even do that for fear of being bashed.

"4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now."
Oh lord...

"5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ."
I don't even know where to start with this one. Making social programs Faith based WILL make them useless.

"6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together."
Well, that's one way of getting kids to go outside. Not to mention, why do you and yours want to blindfold the children? I'm not saying they should see ALL the horrors of the world, but by censoring these things, it just increases the curiosity, creating an OPPOSITE effect.

"7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong."
2 words. Good. Luck.

"You can be with us or against us..."
Awww...lovely...your own little Jihad...er, I mean Holy War.

"...but you had BETTER believe one thing:

Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus."
Well, if you'd stop picking on the rest of the kids, we'd be willing to let you out of your cage, but until then, we have no choice.

--Sorry...accidentally hit the Send button.--

old comment by yourignorant

hahahahahahahahaha i think that your are probably the most ignorant person in the entire world. hmm were gettin kind of close to the end of bushs 2nd term, hes got a lot of work to do huh?. if were a real american then you would believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of the press. in conclusion if you want to be a fucking religious fanatic and impose your highly irrational shit on innocent people, then go do it in darfur, where you be skinned alive in 2 seconds and wont be bothering the real americans who follow the rules of the Constitution. Since you probably dropped out of high or even middle school, you dont know what that even is. Oh yea, im no expert but i think that Jesus would be fucking sick if he saw how completely insane and fanatical Christians are today. you fucked up

old comment by FMG

And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!

Because you are'nt? Just because you are not allowed to be dicks to people does not mean you are kowtowing.

America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body.

Jefferson... Bitch... He may not be 12 stories tall and made of radiation but he stated it was not a CHRISTIAN NATION.

This just makes me so ill. That someone else's culture is somehow less worthy than yours. Mine was destroyed by christians. There are a handful of naga who still remember the old ways or who even pay lip service to it. Baptist christians destroyed it. Made the other naga more violent. While honour duels were common they were duals between equals. They could have been stopped by education. Now there is no honour in the system. The baptist nagas actively target the animist and hindu ones and forcibly convert them.

2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.

If I tell you the genocide that goes on every time a man sleeps of "potential life" you will probably weep and pull your hair out. More sperm die every night than all the abortions in the world combined from just one man. Lets not kid ourselves when we determine "life". If you regard a ball of cells as life, then you will regard the moving swimming sperm as life.

Haha. You will just get more gay people. The irony of homosexuality is that its very vital to us in our lives. It stops men from butchering each other as rivals. Without any amount of homosexuality we would happily kill each other without thought. That and if we forced them in the closet they would actually cause more people to have the "homosexuality likeliness" gene and you would have more gay people. In societies more accepting of gay people you have fewer of them.

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.

The FMG stands for Full Metal Geneticist. From a portmanteau of a japanese anime and my geneticist degree. Its due to me having metallic replacements in my hand. I was beaten for being left handed by "christians" who claimed that left handedness is a sin. I would rather kids be taught without religion than to allow such close minded thinking to exist.

5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.

Another thing that makes my skin crawl. Those "jesus" help programs built churches where people needed hospitals and schools. Chapels where they needed food and water. Priests when they needed doctors and nurses. Its a sad day when Sri Lanka faces a freaking tidal wave and fixes itself while undergoing civil war and the US "faith" based initiatives screwed over New Orleans. And indeed came to "help" out by converting people rather than helping.

If you don't like the show do not watch it.

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION... Bitch... Seriously lass, I understand more about what is enshrined in the laws of the US constitution and I am not even from the US.

old comment by Integra

No we are not a christian nation. Read the treati of tripoli.

1. Yeah, because christianity is so peaceful.

2. To quote evil bible: 2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
3. You can surpress the gays all you want but no one can turn your child gay, nor do they choose it. It just happens to some people and you should love and accept them for who they are and not who you want them to be.
4. Send your child to whatever school you want why should I give a shite?
5. Is Jesus gonna help pay for grocies? I didn't think so.
6. Don't like a show, don't watch it. Arn't TBN and KLOVE enough?
7. Theres a red x in the corner of your screen for a reason. Don't like a site, don't look at it.

When were you ever in "the back of the bus"?
You've been protesting shite since Elvis.

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/Christians are taking back America!/

From whom, pray tell?

/And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!/

Kowtowing? You and your ilk are the people who constantly harass them. If anything, THEY are the ones who should stop kowtowing to you.

/America is a Christian nation,/

Nope. Never was and never will be (God willing). I'm Christian and I already know this. The fact that you don't is pathetic.

/not a nation of witches./

I thought your precious Pilgrims got rid of them all, supposedly. There are still some around? Quick! Someone bring the ropes! The pitchforks! The matches and some kindle! Oh, wait, I forgot, it's not the 17th century anymore.

/Satan symbols over my dead body./

I don't know what the heck that means. What "Satan symbols?"

/By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country./

Onward, Christian soldiers! It's time for a new Crusade!

/Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. The region will be at peace and millions of Arab souls will be saved through the grace of Jesus Christ./

Yes, just like those good Christian neighbors of Ireland, England, and Northern Ireland. They got along so well together, didn't they? And don't even get me started on the Hundred Years War.

/2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever./

While I do admit that I'm a bit conflicted over the abortion issue, I can at least say that I don't believe that it should be outlawed. Besides, what do you think soldiers and snipers are doing in Iraq?

/3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good./

Because there's nothing like repression to make society whole again.

/The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again./

Hold on, are you saying AIDS is homophobic? AIDS isn't homophobic. It's not even racist. It kills everyone. Anyone can be affected by it.

/Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view./

Hide them away? No! For shame! We should make an example out of them! Make them wear the letter 'G' on their shirts and have them stand on scaffolds like idiots so that everyone can see them for the dirty, rotten sinners they are!

/4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now./

I go to a Catholic school, but I shudder to think of what a "decent Christian school" is for you.

/5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ./

So says the Pharisee who isn't starving in the streets.

/6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together./

I do think that Howard Stern has a filthy mind and filthy mouth, but if people like him, then he's going to stay. Not everyone likes the same things you do. And yes, there is such a contraption called a remote. Deal with it.

/7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong./

If no one bought it, they wouldn't sell it.

/You can be with us or against us,/

I love how a fundie's mind is so black and white. (sarcasm)

/but you had BETTER believe one thing:

Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus./

I wasn't aware that we were even on the bus. At least not white Christians.

P.S. Sandman for the win.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Christians are taking back America!"

Lance Armstrong, George Clooney, Angelina Jolie et al are proof it's now socially acceptable to openly admit to be an Atheist. Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Faggard, Kent Hovind, Tony Alamo et al aren't exactly shining examples of right-wing Christianity and it's morals, eh? You do the maths.

"And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!'

Your God Emperor of Fucking Up, George Dumbya Bush is no longer in the White House. The GOP no longer has power. The Democrats rule the roost now. Kowtow more, butthurt little Jesusfag. As far as you're concerned, we are your God.

"America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body."

The Constitution & the Treaty of Tripoli says otherwise.

"By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

Islamic insurgency is on the rise in Iraq. As many of your injured & dead military personnel will testify.

"2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever."

Roe vs. Wade, bitch. And how's the teaching of Creationism/'Intelligent Design' going in US schools? Oh yes, that's right. George Dumbya Bush personally appointed John E. Jones III to the Federal Bench. He presided over Kitzmiller vs. Dover in 2005. He found for the plaintiffs. Creationism/'I.D.' is now illegal in US schools. Shot yourselves in the foot much, fundies?

Despite 'Prop. 8' gays still exist. As does gay marriage in states outside of those which banned it. And are still legally recognised throughout the US.

"4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now."

What happened to that? Oh yes, the collapse of your country's economy. By George Dumbya Bush. Enjoy your hoemskuling.

"5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ."

More people have had to go on welfare, since the collapse of your country's economy. As a result of George Dumbya Bush. No doubt some of those are Christians. Who voted for Dumbya. Where is your God now?

1st Amendment, bitch.

Net Neutrality. Have you heard of it? No one country controls the Internet. But thanks for playing.

"You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing:"

Now Dumbya's no longer in the White House, and the GOP sucking the cocks of you Religious Right types to gain your favour (& votes) avails you naught, as you're now the minority, how's it feel being politically impotent?

"Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus."

You okay back there, with the Nutters* getting on your tits, bogey-encrusted seats, smelly hobos (no doubt ex-wealthy Bush voters & ex-Christians) & other detritus of the previous Repubican administration? Whilst the Democrat-voting, Atheist, Liberal, Gay, and generally everyone you hate is sitting at the front of the clean, healthy, Federally-supported, Obama-driven bus.

*- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasper_Carrott

http://peebles.podomatic.com/entry/2007-06-01T05_26_50-07_00

old comment by Swede

Christians are taking back America! From whom?
And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!
Which, all together, make up perhaps 15 percent of the american population?

By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term: Oh, this will be fun!
1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country.
Nope, it's still a war zone, and also a very Muslim country. Attacking people tend to make their beliefs STRONGER, not weaker.
2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.
I don't know about the Justices, but as far as I know nobody is slaughtering any other babies than piglets and chickens.
3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view.
Every kind of sexual activity should be kept out of children's views. Very few lesbians practice sodomy. Ah, forgot about them wimmin again, did you?

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.
This I don't understand. Aren't people allowed to sent their kids to any school they want?
5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.
I agree that worthless programs should be dismantled. But not on the basis of faith, but on the rate of usefulness to the recipients.

6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together.
I'm more embarrassed by all these game shows, "reality" shows, televangelist shows, make-over shows, etc.
7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act.
If you don't like it you can close those sites directly. I'm on the internet several hours a day, but seldom see any pornography.

You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing: Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus.
Over here in secular Northern Europe the "cool", bullying types often sit in the back of the bus.
We have (almost) no history of segregation, so the reference of "sitting in the back of the bus" means very little over here.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Christians are taking back America!

And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!" tl;dr...

Your bluster the best you could do in 2006? It's now 2010, Your God Emperor of Fucking Up George Dumbya Bush is no longer in the White House, nor is your true God, the GOP in charge of the playground, and the complete opposite of what you claimed, has happened.

And your quoted post has disappeared into the digital aether.

Just like your hopes wanda. Cry more, little Jesusfag. Your tears of despair are sweet nectar to me. As the wails of you & everyone of the Religious Right's hopelessness are exquisite music to me.

Time for we of the Atheist Left to rule the roost and feel superior. Now, little subhuman fundie... SUFFER!

old comment by SeekerLancer

Gee I'm glad none of that happened.

1) LOL CHRISTIAN MIDDLE EAST!
2) Sorry, thanks for playing, better luck next time.
3) So you're admitting that gays are something natural that will never go away. How's it going to help your kids by keeping gays a dirty secret? They'll still end up gay if they're gay whether you like it or not. Wouldn't it be better for your kids if they lived in a country where they would be accepted for who they are?
4) As an educator I believe that the teacher's union is a big stumbling block when it comes to having qualified teachers in schools but your Christian nonsense isn't helping anybody.
5) So go to church or die is what you're saying? Who needs medicaid when the power of Christ will heal you? Yeah I wish the world was that magical but I'm not that stupid.
6) And be bored to tears.
7) Oh noes teh sechs is icky get it away!

old comment by JSS

Bush's term is done and Obama's been in office for over a year now. Let's take a look at this list.

1) Nope (Yeah, show them that their loving god who burns infidels for eternity is evil, unlike your loving god who burns infidels for eternity.)
2) Nope (Meh, I'm not too keen on abortion. Calling them slaughterhouses is a little much, unless it's late term abortion.)
3) Nope (Homosexual acts in general don't spread disease. For your gay hatred plan: DIAF.)
4) Nope (Jesus Camp showed us the horrors of indoctrination. No thanks.)
5) Nope (How about teaching them to think instead of how to read an ancient book and become intolerant to any other beliefs.)
6) Nope (Yeah let's put Pat Roberton's sermons of God's hatred of non-believers on all channels. Ahh family values.)
7) Nope (If you want to monitor other's private lives I'm sure Kim Jong Il would want to be friends with you.)

Looks like your little christo-fascist agenda never came to fruition. Oh well, boo hoo, cue world's smallest violins. There's plenty of other religious totalitarian regimes you can move to if you hate freedom.

old comment by Amadaun

I just kind of gaped at #1. She actually thought the invasion of Iraq was a missionary endeavor? (Not like the real reasons were especially coherent, but damn.) She actually thinks the Middle East is just waiting to be informed of the glories of Christianity? Dudette, you started off there. Christians are still there. Christian proto-Ethiopia and Christian Byzantium were neighbors of Mohammed's Arabian alliance, and the oral tradition of Arab Christians influenced the Koran considerably. She probably believes America is the homeland of Christianity. Dumbass.

The rest is split between nonsensical and offensive, but the first was so much of both my brain hiccupped.

#7: LOL! The internet is the most uncontrollable form of porn yet, and no one has ever successfully controlled porn, ever.

Wait...Satan symbols over her dead body means...on her tombstone. Heh. Like the stars of David on every single stone in the local synagogue boneyards? Except incorrect, because she's not a Satanist?

Wait...wouldn't America be so much more awesome if we were all witches?

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