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Sorry but imaginary beliefs are those that have zero evidence like atheists have when they claim that Jesus didn't exist and die for their sins.

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old comment by Sandman

Of course there is zero evidence for Jesus not existing and not dieing for the sins of the world. All negative statements by definition have no evidence supporting them, only a positive statement can provide empirical evidence. The burden is not on those denying Jesus to prove he did not exist, it is on those claiming he did to prove he did, because they are the ones making the assertion of existence of a statement.
The only time a negative statement can offer any kind of proof is when it is a binary statement: two mutually exclusive possibilities. If we flip a coin and you say it's heads and I say it isn't, I can prove that by showing you the tails side showing. But the existence or non-existence of Jesus is not a binary statement, it's an existential one. Yes, he either existed or he didn't, but if he did not exist, there is no empirical fact or event that conclusively blocks his potential existence, like the appearence of "tails" on a coin blocks the possiblility of it being "heads." And if you can't follow that, you have no business even posting philosophical matters.

old comment by Star Cluster

How about the fact that there is not one word written about Jesus by anyone alive at the time that Jesus was supposed to have lived. Not one word; none, zilch, nada, nothing. If Jesus had travelled around the area of Galilee, had done the wonderous things the Babble says he did, had drawn the kinds of crowds he purportedly drew,and was put on trial and crucified by the Roman Empire, there would have been volumes written by the historians of the day documenting his life and adventures. Yet the only source of information on him is your Wholly Babble. And don't say that the gospel writers were witnesses as it has been shown that none of them were written at the time Jesus was supposed to have lived. Hell, Luke even says he wasn't a witness to it.
What more proof do you need?

old comment by Old Viking

Star Cluster nails it. The Romans were world caliber historians. If a squirrel fell from a tree in northern Gaul there was a scribe there to send a report to the emperor. The Jews were no slouches as historians either. So we have this guy wandering a backwater outpost of the Roman empire disputing religious authorities, drawing huge throngs and performing all sorts of miracles. And not one single solitary soul made note of it. The earliest of the gospels, "Mark," was writtem about 70 CE, some 40 years after the events it purports to describe. The other three were written between 70 and 110 CE. Ladies and gentlemen, this ain't good evidence. Incidentally, the Josephus reference is considered spurious by most scholars. And Third Century Roman references are obviously based on hearsay,and very ambiguous to boot.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

If you've seen Carico's Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/heidicarico

Seems she's taken up the Troll4Life when drunk schtick. Which makes one think that - as per T4L - she's purely doing this to create drama.

(I refer you to what Nathan Poe himself says, re. a thread infected by Carico. And as the Bible cannot be used to prove itself; lack of extra-Biblical Peer Review, especially by secular sources, therefore...!)

Therefore equally, anything she says is invalid. And as per Troll4Life, thus any & all 'threats' ('Turn or Burn' etc) Carico is reduced to are less than empty, as the source for such has less than zero credibility, with no proof to back such up.

...but a 'Jesus' being actually based on previous mythical figures - particularly Mithras - has far more credibility. Certainly when Ramses II - acknowledged as Egypt's greatest pharaoh by archaologists/Egyptologists/historians etc - has shitloads of evidence (papyrii, carvings/stelae, statues/temples etc); also the fact that a radiodated/DNA analysable body does his existence no harm, neither.

When your 'true' Word of God can't even precisely name which pharaoh Moses dealt with, Carico, so that alone does nothing for your 'Jesus' credibility, when the Bible isn't even admissable as evidence in a court of law, then...! [/Kitzmiller vs. Dover]

Sorry, but imaginary beliefs are those that have less-than zero evidence like nutzoid fundies such as you, have when they claim that a 'Jesus' did exist. See you in Cairo, Carico. You'll be in that country's river, re. Ramses II at their museum. [/hyper-smartarse]

'Beliefs'. You cannot spell that without the word LIE. Like I say: Ramses II. Just the facts, ma'am. [/"Dragnet"]

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