Since we are a democracy those things should have been voted on by the American people. If the American people wanted slavery we should have had the right to keep it. If the American people want to keep blacks from marrying whites we should be allowed to do so. The majority rules (guided by Biblical principles obviously).
Women should not be voting anyway. They're too inclined to make choices based on emotional appeal and they're easily deceived. According to Biblical principle the male heads of household should run the community and the nation (and the church). Each home should be granted one vote, which the eldest male should cast.
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First: We have this nifty little thing called the Bill of Rights to protect the minority from the majority.
Second: I SERIOUSLY doubt you are in the majority feeling this way. If you are I have lost what little faith I had left in humanity and am gonna go fundie hunting.
Third: Let me guess, you are the eldest male in your house right?
Fourth: All those Middle Eastern countries we are having to fight right now are at least partial theocracies. Please note how well they rule out of a 1400 year old book. What the FUCK makes you think you could rule better out of one that is over 2000 years old?
Fifth: I REALLY hope you have a daughter and she marries a black man. If this happens, please have someone take your picture at the wedding so I have something to laugh at.
Hi, my name's Gene, and I'm an asshole.
The judge made me come to asshole's anonymous, and seeing other sad lonely old farts with similar struggles and problems is really helping me.
I'm a sad, impotent, hateful, ingorant, fearful, superstitious, socially inept, ugly man with a tiny dick. This is why I hate living in a meritocracy.
Mm-hmm. Well, look around you, buddy. All the world's troubles are occuring in male-dominated societies. I say, youve been ruling, and you've made a horrific shitstorm.
Since we are a democracy
You fail right there. We are a constitutional republic. That means two things: 1) We elect leaders rather than direct popular vote on issues, and 2) (the more relevant one to the topic) there are certain things the government is FORBIDDEN from doing, no matter how big the majority is.
This might be worthy of a "Proudly Marching Into the 16th Century" Award.
The Bible NEVER supports democracy(nobody did at the time)and men vote according to their guts too, or should I remember that it were majority of men who put Hitler in power?. And stop this stupid argument that the Bible says or doesn´t. These are opinions held by men, not by God, because they are kids of their time. By this basis, they say that period is impure, that you shouldn´t mix fabrics, that you can sell kids into slavery.............besides, aren´t slaves and black people human beings with soul?, so what about majorities,don´t you think that NOW we have no slavery because they were given a voice?
Wow... the irony is strong in this one. ALthough, if he was right about women being too inclined to making choices on emotional appeal and the fact that they're easily deceived, banning them from voting should stop people from voting Republican.
Therein lies the error of his logic.
I'm beginning to seriously dislike this Gene character.
"The majority rules (guided by Biblical principles obviously)."
Which explains the slavery, miscegenation laws, and mysogyny, I suppose.
"According to Biblical principle the male heads of household should run the community and the nation (and the church). Each home should be granted one vote, which the eldest male should cast."
The Bible talks about how to set up a democracy?
Since Gene is such a fan of majority rule, let's take a vote to strip him naked, paint him purple, and drop him by helicopter into an Islamic school in Pakistan.
Actually, everything Gene suggests is theoretically possible with sufficient public support (e.g., amending the Constitution, etc.). Fortunately, only a handful of the lunatic fringe would ever actually support these ideas. So the majority rule has already given Gene his answer: you're full of shit - crawl back under your rock, you nut.
This is from a longer post entitled, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation In The New World" by Gene Asshat, Son of Wilhelm Asshat, Plymouth Colony 1633.
Sir, pleeze sucketh on yonder blunderbuss.
Under your scenario I guess it's a good thing that my husband who was a bible thumping fundie and a card carrying republican, has finally seen the light and the bullshit for what it is. Apparently you don't understand the true power of women in the household. Wow, you're dumb.
Since we are a democracy...
Republic, actually.
...those things should have been voted on by the American people. If the American people wanted slavery we should have had the right to keep it.
No, we don't. There are certain rights that everyone has, whether they are in the majority, in a minority, or a single lonely asshat like you.
...If the American people want to keep blacks from marrying whites we should be allowed to do so.
No, we shouldn't. No one has any business in the personal affairs of others. If two people want to marry, it is a matter between them. You have no right to stop them based on their race or respective genders. The Bill of Rights was created specifically to protect the minority from the majority.
The majority rules...
Go to a Muslim-majority country where Christianity is illegal. Then try and tell me that "majority rules."
The majority rules solely on matters that affect everyone equally. National foreign policy affects everyone, since we all live in this nation, and there has to be one foreign policy. Thus, the majority decides. "Majority rules" does not extend into individual peoples' personal choices. That would be mob rule; tyranny of the majority.
...(guided by Biblical principles obviously)...
Oh, come on! Biblical principles??! The Bible doesn't advocate majority rule. According to the Bible, God knows everything, you should never question God, and you should always obey the orders of absolute monarchs who claim to have been appointed by God. I don't remember the exact passage, but several people in the Bible wound up facing painful and untimely death for advocating democracy.
I mean, really, democracy in the Bible ??! Is there anything the Bible can't do for these people?! According to them, the Bible produced all of science, promotes democracy, makes people act nice, and assures eternal happiness. And it makes blueberry waffles.
Women should not be voting anyway.
The majority rules, but women shouldn't vote? You contradicted yourself in the next sentence! Perhaps you meant to say "the majority of people who are similar to me should rule over everyone."
They're too inclined to make choices based on emotional appeal and they're easily deceived.
Our current president is male, yet he still insists that Saddam had some connection to Al Qaeda. That sounds like "deceived" to me. He also wants to spy on (or even lock up) innocent people based on fear of terrorists. Last time I checked, fear is an emotion. He vetoed a bill that would allow lifesaving scientific research because of his emotional view that single cells are conscious. Women are too emotional and too easily deceived my ass.
Hell, Gene, you're a man, yet you've been deceived into believing this "Christianity" scam.
According to Biblical principle the male heads of household should run the community and the nation (and the church).
According to the Bible, the Earth is flat. According to the Bible, pi = 3. According to the Bible, you can sell your daughter into slavery. [voice = Penn Jillete] Not even in Nevada! [/voice]
According to the Bible, you should kill women for being the victim of rape, kill people for wearing more than one kind of fabric, kill your kids for not coming when called, and kill anyone who works on Saturday. (Let's hope your house doesn't burn down on Saturday; the firefighters won't come to save you, that would be working!)
Each home should be granted one vote, which the eldest male should cast.
10 to 1 he's the oldest male of his household.
Even leaving aside the sexism and ageism, this system is still unfair. An extended family that lives under one roof would have the same representation as a single person who lives alone.
<< I mean, really, democracy in the Bible??! Is there anything the Bible can't do for these people?! According to them, the Bible produced all of science, promotes democracy, makes people act nice, and assures eternal happiness. And it makes blueberry waffles. >>
Maronan: Very nice deconstruction; I especially loved this part!
~David D.G.
"Since we are a democracy those things should have been voted on by the American people."
Not. Democracy. Republic.
"If the American people wanted slavery we should have had the right to keep it."
Screw those uppity blacks and their rights.
"If the American people want to keep blacks from marrying whites we should be allowed to do so."
Screw those miscegenated couples and their rights.
"The majority rules (guided by Biblical principles obviously)."
RESPECT OUR RIGHTS! Hypocrisy much?
"Women should not be voting anyway. They're too inclined to make choices based on emotional appeal and they're easily deceived."
But they are people, and have voices which deserve to be heard. And many women I know are far wiser, and more astute than you could hope to be.
"According to Biblical principle the male heads of household should run the community and the nation (and the church)."
Awww ...gotta love the misogyny for Jeebus.
"Each home should be granted one vote, which the eldest male should cast."
I am very happy you are not, and never will be in power.
So...this is someone who's not only defending female disempowerment, he's also defending slavery.
Hey, I love this site. I love this site, because it helps expose people like this for all the world to see and laugh at.
Gene, democracy may be the best system we have, but it is not without its flaws. Basically, since when has the majority always been right?
Hey Gene, I know a faaaaaaabulous theocracy that you should move to:
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Saudi Arabia! It's misogynist, homophobic, ruled by religion, everything you want in a country!
How does that sound?
Uh, no. Civil rights is NOT decided by majority vote, scumfuck.
Oh, and women shouldn't vote because they're too emotional? Says the guy who wants everyone but people like him opressed and unable to vote because he wants a power trip. Yep, having only mysoginistic, testosterone fueled dumbfucks vote is much better.
Fascinating how far away from democracy this little daydream of yours is.
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