I would not be opposed to forcing men who have raped women to undergo a sex-change operation, complete with hormones, castration, the full nine yards.
I don't know what I would do with men who have raped other men (which I assume can happen), or women who have raped other women (which I believe has been performed with various and sundry instruments)--neither of which crime, no matter how despicable, would ever result in pregnancy.
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"I would not be opposed to forcing men who have raped women to undergo a sex-change operation, complete with hormones, castration, the full nine yards."
Could someone explain what possible purpose that could serve?
Also, is he suggesting that being a woman is a punishment?
I can sympathize with the abstract desire for poetic justice, but this is a case in which additional wrongs won't right anything. I think he is trying to have the punishment fit the crime by creating in the perpetrator the status of his victims -- indeed, as if just being a woman were a punishment (which I suppose it would be, for a man who wants to remain a man, albeit a cruel and most definitely unusual one).
However, the REAL victimhood here is not in one's gender, but in being on the receiving end of a brutal and humiliating assault. So unless he advocates having these transgendered rapists raped themselves, I don't think he's quite got it -- and I don't think that's such a good road to take anyway, to put it as mildly as possible.
Besides, as he admits, it is still possible for a woman to commit a rape, so just changing these guys into women would probably only make them even angrier and more frustrated, thus even more likely to vent their rage and frustration violently.
So, in conclusion, thanks for the idea, but let's try to not think quite THIS far outside the box, okay?
~David D.G.
This idea is flawed as hell, though there is a part of me that enjoys the ironic aspects of it.
Maybe DeclinetoState is a follower of the John Hartigan school of rapist correction (watch Sin City if you don't get this) or perhaps they're a castrating feminist radical at heart.
Main point, a sex change might just make their rapist asses more crazy. It's probably uncostitutional under the "unusual punishment" clause of the 8th ammendment. That's a pretty pricey surgical procedure for a country on the brink of a health care shortage.
Last but not least, if you believe the hype, a sex offended will get their "just deserts" in any maximum security prison anyway. That is the main scare point of prisons these days, right?
In fact, I'd go as far to venture that forcible sodomy is a pillar of American society and that our ill planned penal system couldn't function without it.
Brilliant idea there Declineto! Now we'll have hundreds of emotionally damaged transexuals with a history of sexual offences wandering our streets! Whatever happened to, you know,putting people in jail where they can't hurt anyone (aside from other, like-minded individuals).
>>However, the REAL victimhood here is not in one's gender, but in being on the receiving end of a brutal and humiliating assault. So unless he advocates having these transgendered rapists raped themselves, I don't think he's quite got it -- and I don't think that's such a good road to take anyway, to put it as mildly as possible.<<
Actually, I think his punishment isn't so much advocating that transgendered people get raped (otherwise he'd be validating the crime he's trying to punish), but it has more to do with cutting off a man's penis. He probably thinks to himself "its hard to rape a woman without a penis".
But if he wants rapists to get raped in return, he could just send them to federal "pound you in the ass" prison.
"I would not be opposed to forcing men who have raped women to undergo a sex-change operation"
Forgive me for thinking more than one step ahead, but ... To What End?
What does the risk of pregnancy have to do with anything else? Sure, that is one more traumatizing result of rape, but it's still just as much a rape if pregnancy does not follow. Plus, rape doesn't have to be penetration, it's sex with someone who haven't consented to it.
I would very much oppose the forcing of men to become women, or of women to become men. It's just as bad as to prohibit a transgender person from go through a sex-change operation. Castration is not necessarily necessary for a sex change.
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