Water is TOO PERFECT to be attributed to chance.
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I think I know where this comes from, another idiot arguing for creation. But still, it only shows how little thought this udsuna invests into anything outside church and maybe Final Fantasy. Very ignorant.
Too perfect? Um, at it's most basic level it's 2 hydrogen molecules attatched to 1 oxygen molecule. I would call it "simple," but "perfect?"
I suppose they are probably referring to the old idea that water is the perfect substance to support life, so it must have been created to do so. This is a "chicken or the egg" argument," because water would also be the perfect substance to sustain life if the water came first, and life evolved to utilize it.
It's an example of the good old "argument from personal incredulity." They are saying "I can't believe that life evolved to take advantage of water, because I refuse to believe in evolution. Therefore water was created to meet the needs of life!"
I assume "perfect" is meant to mean "ideal for life to exist". Consider the possibility that it's perfect for life as we know it to exist because it evolved to make use of water, which is abundant. If the planet were instead covered in seas of some other liquid, or maybe some gas cloud, might life of some other kind not evolve to make use of that instead?
Well, water does have nice property that since it's densest at 4 degrees of C and since ice is less dense than liquid water, big areas of water tend to stay liquid at the bottom.
However, that hardly proves creationism.
Water's actually kind of lame, if you think about it.
I mean, that whole supporting life thing is great and all, but water doesn't have any carbonation or fruit flavoring or anything. Why should I care about it?
like, yah, omigosh! You just, like, turn on your tap, and, like, right - omigosh! There it is!
"Please, you're too kind." -Water
I laughed.
Also, DoctorX, this guy is a hoot and a half. Like Raitslin said in another post, we could devote an entire website to this guy. He's like the articulate version of JohnR7.
I thought water was explained not by chance, but by molecular orbital theory. And I have actually had to learn the thermodynamics of liquid water short-range structure in a course. Fascinating, actually.
Your problem, udsuna, is that you assume humans were a foregone conclusion that the world as it is now was predestined from the beginning of the universe.
If you assume humans to have been predestined to exist, the fact that the world presents a perfect place for us to live does seem to support a god/designer.
The problem is that humans weren't predestined to exist; it's quite arrogant to assume we have a special place in the universe. When you put down the egocentric limitations creationists place upon themselves, it becomes clear that we are adapted to the Earth; we've adapted to survive on the planet that the laws of the universe handed to us, not perfect "predestined" beings living on a planet designed to accommodate our pre-made form.
Covalent bonds are so cool. Take those of methane.
Carbon needs four electrons to fill up its eight electron outer electron shell, while Hydrogen needs one to fill up its inner two electron shell. So what do they do?
Four Hydrogen atoms each share one electron with one Carbon atom, which shares its four outer shell electrons, one per Hydrogen atom. So the five atoms stay happily together, forming a family known as Methane, or Natural Gas.
Farts are also way too perfect, then.
"Water is TOO PERFECT to be attributed to chance."
Water has been found on the Moon. Mars. Even on the moon of Jupiter, Europa.
Thus the chances of life on other worlds has been increased dramatically. The very fact we exist on Earth proves that.
Never play the odds, my friend. Just as in the case of casinos only the house wins, in the great logical scheme of things, debating we Atheists is a case of Heads we win, Tails you lose , udsuna.
If water is so perfect, then how come it's so easy to contaminate?
If water is so perfect, then what's with all these little bottles of water that we carry around in the western world?
If water is so perfect, then how we can't breath in it?
If water is so perfect, then how come 884 million people have inadequate access to safe drinking water (2008).
Confused?
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