[Disusing the Bible story where children are mauled by bears for making fun of Elisha:]
No, they didn't just call someone baldy - did you actually read the passage in the Bible or are you using a comic strip as your source material?
There were mocking a prophet of G_d and that act carries with it a very huge cost. If you'd care to actually read the passage they were challenging his authority - kids old enough to challenge authority are old enough to suffer the consequences of that challenge.
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G_d??? Seriously? You're afraid to type God?
Won't type God but you're giddy with the thought of bears sent by god to kill children, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Okay, so the next time you challenge the authority of Obama, who is in power because god wants him to be (Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.) then expect to be ripped apart piece by piece as you scream in pain. After all, you are old enough to suffer the consequences of challenging a man who is ordained of god.
"There were mocking a prophet of God."
Yes, by calling him 'baldy'.
One would think that an agent of the Almighty would have better things to do than wander about taking offense at slights from little children. But apparently your god is a small god, and his followers equally small-minded.
Children are born to punish their mothers for having vulvas. They are therefore full of original sin, and unless they are willing subject themselves to discipline by prophets of the Lard, they are worthy of torture, death, and Hell. And I promise you that someone is propounding this in all seriousness.
A 5 yrs old boy is challenging his mother's authority. He don't want to eat his vegetables. By your logic, he needs to be punished severely, maybe even be mauled by bears. I really hope you never have children of your own.
A god as petty, thin-skinned and petulant as your deserves to be mocked.
Hmm, no bears outside my door. Funny that.
@raindrops
That's completely absurd. Go read the bible, it doesn't say anything like that.
What she needs to do is take the kid to the local elders, tell them he's an awful kid, and stone him outside the city gates.
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
More of this stupid shit? They're KIDS. And this isn't being caned or belted for insolence, this is being torn apart by wild animals. And yes, I did read the passage, and each reading convinces me further that this story is not only fictional, it's pretty awful fiction nobody should read or take seriously.
If you'd care to actually read the passage they were challenging his authority - kids old enough to challenge authority are old enough to suffer the consequences of that challenge.
So if the "socialist" Obama sends a drone after you you'll happily embrace it as the price of your disobedience? What if the anti-Christ comes and tells you to stop worshiping Jesus. You can't challenge his authority and you can't stop being Christian. With your messed up morality you're literally damned if you do and damned if you don't. Not to mention that kids are old enough to challenge authority when they're 4 years old. You gonna feel good about brutally murdering a child for refusing to brush their teeth?
There were mocking a prophet of G_d and that act carries with it a very huge cost.
Funny, FSTDT should have been destroyed a billion times over by now. Not only do we mock "prophets", we mock God and challenge his authority too.
Yet, we are still here.
Explain that.
And yes, God is evil for sending bears to maul children.
Elisha may have been a prophet & stuff, but sending bears to have "Kiddie McNuggets" is overkill.
Frankly, I think Elisha's a prophet of The Demiurge!
Deity As Loving Parent - REAL
Deity As Brutal Tyrant - FAKE
I'll take Judaism as reformed by the Nazorean Prophet/Avatar, Yeshua over Judaism as distorted over time by bloodthirsty warlords & male chauvinists, thank you very much.
No, they didn't just call someone baldy
Yes, they did
did you actually read the passage in the Bible or are you using a comic strip as your source material?
2 Kings 2:23-24
There were mocking a prophet of G_d and that act carries with it a very huge cost.
I mock your prophets and your "god" with my every breath, I mock any prophet of any fucking god anyone cares to invent.
Maybe the kids just thought he was a fake prophet who was out for power and getting laid, like Mohammed, Joseph Smith, David Koresh, Jim Jones, and Warren Jeffs.
"There were mocking a prophet of G_d "
"I'd like to buy a vowell, Pat."
Seriously, this is the stupidest affectation ever! Your god's name is YHVH (YudHayVov-Hay), in Hebrew. You want to be all coy about that, go right ahead. That's stupid enough.* God is a name-title. Be not afraid, chowder-head!
* Here is the root of your superstitious nonsense: "Known as the Tetragrammaton, the Name was permitted for everyday greetings until at least 586 B.C.E., when the First Temple was destroyed (Mishnah Berakhot 9:5). In time its pronunciation was permitted only to the priests (Mishnah Sotah 7:6), who would pronounce it in their public blessing of the people. After the death of the High Priest Shimon HaTzaddik around 300 B.C.E. (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yoma 39b) the name was pronounced only by the High Priest in the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippur (Mishnah Sotah 7:6; Mishnah Tamid 7:2). The sages then passed on the pronunciation of the Name to their disciples only once (some say twice) every seven years (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kiddushin 71a). Finally, upon the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 C.E., the Name was no longer pronounced at all." - Reform Judaism Magazine
No, they didn't just call someone baldy
Sure they did. It says they mocked him and basically said "beat it, baldy". Nothing in the passage suggests they were challenging his authority. Did Gerbil actually read the passage or was he using a comic strip as his source material? Nor does anything in the passage suggest they were old enough to know better. "Qatan" means small, young or insignificant.
"they were challenging his authority"
The bears were sent in because the religiot could not justify the authority.
"power, unless justified is inherently illegitimate and the burden of proof is on those in authority. If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled and authority for its own sake is inherently unjustified."
Noam Chomsky.
#1584807:
Troll harder, kid.
For the record, FSTDTers aren't offended by God (or the idea of God). They're offended by some of the messages (i.e., "it's okay to murder dozens of small children for making fun of your bald head"), and by the childish & often psychotic mindset of the fundamentalist followers.
Please do yourself a favour: grow up, and find a better hobby than making yourself look like a fool on the internet.
By your logic, everyone that had the audacity to question King George Dubya needed a bullet to the bean.
Come to to think of it, you'd probably go along with that proposition.
Sure, in the same Bible where they complain that the Philisteens, the Assyrians or the baddy of the day do the same with THEIR kids, they are, nevertheless, monsters. Please, a little of consistency.
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