David J Stewart #fundie

David J Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

[Watch as the fundie shoots himself in the foot!]

Walt Disney is straight out of the pits of Hell. Satan is using Disney's movies and music to brainwash children, leading them into apostasy and heathendom. The muses (i.e., Hercules daughters) do their job of singing songs in the movie and several times state "...that's the gospel truth." Myth is now Gospel truth??? And here I thought the Bible was the ONLY Gospel truth. They seem to present Hercules as a 'Jesus-type' hero who went into the river of death and brought out a soul, Meg's, and thus by doing such a deed that was in his heart (due to love) he became a god. Clearly, Greek mythology and the Word of God are diametrically opposed to each other. The Bible is Truth; but Greek mythology is fiction. It is obvious that the heathens at Walt Disney don't see any difference between the Bible and Greek mythology.

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old comment by Dark_Lord_Prime

While most of the definitions at dictionary.com state some connection to Christ/the bible..

Gospel: 4. something regarded as true and implicitly believed: to take his report for gospel.

In ancient Greece & Rome, the story of Hercules/Heracles WAS "the gospel truth."

As to being "a Jesus-type hero"... well, let's look: son of the King of the Gods? Check.

Born to a human woman, impregnated by said King of the Gods? Check.

Performed much self-sacrifice to "make the world safe for mankind" and was rewarded with ascent into the heavens (Olympus), to be with his father and the other gods? Check.

No.. nothing at all Christ-like about the man. :P

Oh, and one other big similarity between the ancient Greek/Roman gods and your faith? They ARE both mythological. Greek/Roman mythology is much more interesting, though. ;)

old comment by Snaardvark

Um, the movie Hercules was based on the Greek myths ABOUT Hercules. I don't think it would have been as good if they'd made a movie about the story of Hercules and didn't base it on the story itself. In the myth he actually was half man half god, his dad was Zeus. As for the muses being Hercules' daughters, it's been a while since I've read the myths but I don't think that's accurate. David, you need to pull your head out of your backside, read some books other than the bible and just let a cute kids movie be a cute kids movie.

(And as for the last line "...don't see any difference between the bible and Greek mythology." Congratulations, that comment has won you the irony award of the day. You win a free one way ticket to Iraq! (don't forget to bring your bible so you can convert all those muslim heathens)

old comment by Antichrist

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Note that Herculean myth resembles Jesus in many areas. The mortal and chaste Alcmene, the mother of Hercules, gave birth to him from a union with God (Zeus). Similar to Herod who wanted to kill Jesus, Hera wanted to kill Hercules. Like Jesus, Hercules traveled the earth as a mortal helping mankind and performed miraculous deeds. Similar to Jesus who died and rose to heaven, Hercules died, rose to Mt. Olympus and became a god. Hercules gives example of perhaps the most popular hero in Ancient Greece and Rome. They believed that he actually lived, told stories about him, worshiped him, and dedicated temples to him.

Likewise the "evidence" of Hercules closely parallels that of Jesus. We have historical people like Hesiod and Plato who mention Hercules in their writings. Similar to the way the gospels tell a narrative story of Jesus, so do we have the epic stories of Homer who depict the life of Hercules. Aesop tells stories and quotes the words of Hercules. Just as we have a brief mention of Jesus by Joesphus in his Antiquities, Joesphus also mentions Hercules (more times than Jesus), in the very same work (see: 1.15; 8.5.3; 10.11.1). Just as Tacitus mentions a Christus, so does he also mention Hercules many times in his Annals. And most importantly, just as we have no artifacts, writings or eyewitnesses about Hercules, we also have nothing about Jesus. All information about Hercules and Jesus comes from stories, beliefs, and hearsay. Should we then believe in a historical Hercules, simply because ancient historians mention him and that we have stories and beliefs about him? Of course not, and the same must apply to Jesus if we wish to hold any consistency to historicity.

And while we're at it

the religion of Zoroaster, founded circa 628-551 B.C.E. in ancient Persia, roused mankind in the need for hating a devil, the belief of a paradise, last judgment and resurrection of the dead. Mithraism, an offshoot of Zoroastrianism probably influenced early Christianity. The Magi described in the New Testament appears as Zoroastrian priests. Note the word "paradise" came from the Persian pairidaeza.

The Egyptian mythical Horus, god of light and goodness has many parallels to Jesus. [Leedom, Massey] For some examples:

Horus and the Father as one
Horus, the Father seen in the Son
Horus, light of the world, represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
Horus served the way, the truth, the life by name and in person
Horus baptized with water by Anup (Jesus baptized with water by John)
Horus the Good Shepherd
Horus as the Lamb (Jesus as the Lamb)
Horus as the Lion (Jesus as the Lion)
Horus identified with the Tat Cross (Jesus with the cross)
The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son, Ra the Holy Spirit
Horus the avenger (Jesus who brings the sword)
Horus the afflicted one
Horus as life eternal
Twelve followers of Horus as Har-Khutti (Jesus' 12 disciples)

But of course those are myths, and the story of Jesus is true. Yeah, sure.

old comment by LadyJafaria

Now, the Disney version of Hercules is not accurate (but screw that, Hades is awesome) but even as inaccurate as it is, the muses are not Hercules' daughters. That'd make the short fat one with the crush on him even creepier, wouldn't it?

Also, your religion stole everything from pagans, even the story of a god/hero/whatever who dies and rises from the dead. But Hercules didn't visit the underworld to save Megara in the myth, he visited it to steal Hades' dog. Only one of many morally questionable Greek hero acts that got cut out of the movie. Trust me, Dave, if you ever read the mythology, you would be clamoring that kids only watch the Disney version and never lay eyes on the story.

old comment by Horsefeathers

"Myth is now Gospel truth??? And here I thought the Bible was the ONLY Gospel truth."

You don't really know what "gospel" means, do you?

"They seem to present Hercules as a 'Jesus-type' hero who went into the river of death and brought out a soul, Meg's, and thus by doing such a deed that was in his heart (due to love) he became a god. Clearly, Greek mythology and the Word of God are diametrically opposed to each other.They seem to present Hercules as a 'Jesus-type' hero who went into the river of death and brought out a soul, Meg's, and thus by doing such a deed that was in his heart (due to love) he became a god. Clearly, Greek mythology and the Word of God are diametrically opposed to each other."

Actually, one seems to be heavily influenced by the other. Since the Greek mythology existed long before your Christ I'll let you work out who influenced who.

"The Bible is Truth; but Greek mythology is fiction. It is obvious that the heathens at Walt Disney don't see any difference between the Bible and Greek mythology."

Anyone with common sense and access to the Greek myths wouldn't see much difference. Mythology all pretty much works the same way no matter what culture it's from so it all bears the same hallmarks. Once you know what they are it's pretty simple to see that your gospels, nay, the Bible itself, is nothing more than mythology.

David J Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

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