How can man be descending and evolving at the same time? Which is it?It appears that Darwin can't make a statment without contradicting himself.
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Shut up carico. I'd be surprised if you could actually contain the intelligence to wipe your own ass, much less understand evolution and the fact that Darwin didn't make every observation about evolution, or that he was even the first. But I've already said more than you can comprehend.
"Too Stupid for Words" award?
Yes, descent can mean "a decline in" as well as one's ancestral lineage, but then evolution means "a change or development in" and does not inevitably mean progress. Better adapted is not better overall. So not only does the descent in The Descent of Man not mean what Heidi make it out to, it would not contradict evolution even if it did.
Incidentally, Heidi means 'noble one', so this person can't even write her name without contradicting herself.
When you learn to drive, you begin with start and stop, not dense traffic.
Now, learn basic math and biology first.
Heidi, when you have children and they have children, etc. all those people who are descended from you are called your descendents . We descend from our ancestors. Get it? That's what Darwin meant by the "descent of man".
"Descending" and "evolving" only appear to contradict each other if you misunderstand evolution and think evolution involves "ascending". It doesn't. There's no evolutionary ladder.
Thats why they talk like Darwin is still alive.
Thats why they talk like Darwin is still alive.
How can you get down off an elephant - you can only get down off a duck?
Heidelberg needs to go do some biblical reading about the ascension of Elijah/Elisha and or Yeshua if she wants some inane contradictions.
From Solo (a moderator ) later in the thread: "I can afford to be subjective in the matter of evolution descending and humanists devolving, because I am right. I am not required to be objective when the truth is as obvious as it is; and it is not an opinion, it is conviction."
Ambrielle, that quote is just scary.
We've got people who are immune to AIDS (HIV?). That didn't exist until the disease became the problem it is today. If it gets to where people outside of Africa show this trait often enough, it can be said we have evolved in response to the threat.
Descended from your great-great grandfather? Descended from [insert random noble family/famous figure here]? Well I guess I can't expect a Darwin Award contender to understand.
Darwin doesn't make that many statements nowadays. And, if you want contradictions, look no further than that Holy Book of yours.
It's two different points of view, stupid. Decending is family ties, ancestry, that kind of things. Evolving is physical changes from generation to generation. Neither is really up nor down.
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I think they get confused between Darwin and Dawkins. Similar spelling, both evil scientists, etc, etc...
They think Jesus is still alive. And Elvis. And that they will live forever because they believe this shit.
“How can man be descending and evolving at the same time?”
“Which is it?”
“It appears that Darwin can't make a statment without contradicting himself.”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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