Seashells on Mt Everest proving the flood is true, proving the Bible is true , proving creation is true, proving that you are wrong. if you are going to hang your eternal destiny on how old the world looks you are in big trouble. Me thinks you should investigate a bit more.
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Me thinks YOU should investigate a bit more.
Why didn't the Chinese, Egyptian and other cultures who were alive and thriving (and kept a written record of their history) ever mention a global flood?
@Darth Vader: Yeah, but the flood was caused by a battle between a Creator Goddess and a demon which broke the filament of the sky. There was no "Noah's Ark" either, even though the loss of lives is a given, no exclusive family was "saved".
Oddly, the Chinese creatio myth also had this creation Goddess (NuWa) creating mankind on the 7th day, even though she was only reponsible for creating animals. The Earth, Sun, moon, stars, rivers etc. were attributed to another deity PanGu.
I thought that, oftentimes, people who summit Everest will leave little trinkets behind as a way to give thanks to the Mountain and also to "leave their mark", so to speak. Those seashells could have come from some hiker's knapsack, not a biblical flood.
Seashells on Everest, eh? All that proves is that what is now a mountain was once at the bottom of the sea. Any global flood deep enough to cover mountains would surely have deposited many diferent types of debris (e.g. animal remains) and not just seashells.
I notice, BTW, you don't mention that these seashells are fossilised. Wonder why...
"eashells on Mt Everest proving the flood is true, proving the Bible is true , proving creation is true, proving that you are wrong."
I think the phrase "plate tectonics" should suffice.
"if you are going to hang your eternal destiny on how old the world looks you are in big trouble."
Because obviously your deity is a deceitful bastard who would purposefully and intentionally warp reality thereby condemning a good chunk of his "beloved creation" to eternal damnation. Swell guy.
"Me thinks you should investigate a bit more."
I'd advise you to do the same.
It's amazing that no other culture even noticed so much as a heavy rain around that time.
As far as cultures having flood myths, well yeah, how else are stone age people going to explain finding sea shell fossils up in the mountains. In the 21st century, we know better. I'm sure the dragon myths came from finding fossils too.
The miracle of hardcore Christianity: that you can explain that there is such a thing as continental drift causing mountain uplift from previous seafloor, that you can explain the mechanism in terms of convection currents in the mantle and the creation of new crust at seafloor ridges, that you can demonstrate the existence of plate tectonics with nothing so significant as signposts on the opposite sides of a known faultline (like, say, a college football stadium with the stands built in two halves lengthwise with the fault line running right down the middle of the field), that you can record individual plate movements with GPS observations, and a fundy can still sit there and say "nuh-uh!" and sincerely mean it .
Possibilities for seashells on Everest?
1. The Indian subcontinent plowed into Asia, raising the sea floor to its present heights.
2. These seashells grew during the flood. Therefore all of these fossil shells must have lived for less than a year.
This second possibility is a golden opportunity to provide evidence for a global flood. When will fundies finance an expedition and show that these are all juvenile shells?
If there really were a global flood, shouldn't there be seashells EVERYWHERE, not just on the beaches and apparently one mountain? I mean why can't I walk out my front door and go "Oh, hey, look, an oyster"? This could also be asked about the Grand Canyon--if your Flood created it, why aren't there canyons everywhere?
two words: logical fallacy. just because there might be seashells on Mt Everest, that does NOT prove 'the flood' true, therefore it does not prove the bible true (nor if it did prove 'the flood' does this 'proof' apply to the rest of the bible, which anyone can see contains contradictions and thus cannot be entirely true) and thus does not prove creation to be true and us wrong. even if (and thats a f***ing big IF) creation was proved true does NOT mean that evolution and science is necessarily false. i pity you and you ignorance. perhaps i shall bury your head further in the sand. Maybe then you shall forget your delusions. but i highly doubt it.
Fossilised seashells are explainable by geology, and therefore are not proof of a global flood, the truth of any holy book, or any creation myth. You fail. False dichotomy is false.
Funny how the fossilized shells on the top of Everest are encased in sediment consistent with being in SALT WATER.
Did your Noachian Flood also dump a lot of extra salt into the rainwater? 'Cause the Earth's oceans would be WAY more dilute if you dumped enough rainwater into them to cover Everest.
Seashell fossils BURIED in the rocks found at the tops of mountains, right?
SO… The Flood topped the biggest mountains in the world AND made them bigger?
Do flood typically deposit silt on the TOPS of mountains?
So, the model is that the rains fell, the Waters below fountained up, huge amounts of dirt were displaced, along with all the vegetation in the world, the vegetation was buried and buried some more, until pressure made it into fossil fuels…
Meanwhile, surges in the water moved selected sea creatures up to the tops of mountains, but none of the wrong sea creatures that would put the lie to the theory of evolution. No puppies or wrong-era plants got moved up beside specific-strata seashells.
THEN the dirt that wasn’t used to bury coal and oil was surged up to the top of those seashells to bury them… But didn’t wash away as the water leaked away.
This water DID wash out the Grand Canyon, but not the mountaintops… Because reasons.
Even though for the Grand Canyon to be evacuated in a single event would require some amazing pressure, moving rock and mud, but that pressure didn’t affect the mountaintops? And such pressure tends to move dirt in straight lines. The Grand Canyon has curves that would not be created under that much pressure.
This all seems plausible to your creationist goals, huh?
Selective floods and very targeted drainage…?
Confused?
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