Jacob Harrison #fundie

Jacob Harrison #fundie forums.fstdt.net

Why you should help me with restoring true heir to England in this universe

I can get you guys and others to help me with my plan to restore the true heir to the throne by showing you that it is a cause of social justice. The Wars of the Roses happened because the Yorkists claimed the throne by being senior in primogeniture because they were descended from the daughter of Lionel Duke of Clarence who did not have any sons. The Lancasterians claimed the throne by descent of John of Gaunt since they were misogynists who didn’t think that females should inherit the throne.

The Yorkists were therefore on the feminist side of the Wars of the Roses and Elizabeth II is descended from the Lancasterian side. Therefore for the cause of social justice, you and others should support having the Yorkist heir put on England’s throne. Therefore join my society.

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

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Why you should help me with restoring true heir to England in this universe

As Emperor of the Holy Britannian Empire Charles zi Britannia would say:

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Also, Jerkob's 'hero' and 'chosen' of his now sin-approving left-footer 'God'*:

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Speaking as a Yorkshireman:

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Empress Elizabeth vi Britannia in this universe. [/"Code Geass"]

Hey, if it worked in the universe created by Sunrise & CLAMP therefore it is part of your 'parallel world': and you don't have the right to think otherwise, never mind disagree in any way, shape or form.

If you disagree, therefore what you 'want' has no right to happen: least of all considered credible, or even listened to. Want us to listen to what you 'want', you are forced to agree that Elizabeth II must be Empress of the US: and it's absolute ruler: which is what you 'want': an absolute monarchy with your 'alternative' to the constitutional monarchy we in Britain have. No constitutional monarchy for us, as per what you 'want'? No republic: and no constitution - as in US - for you. Fair's fair. Enjoy your paradox. [/Charles I: English Civil War, George III: American Revolutionary War]

*- Therefore all we Atheists, LGBT people, non-fundie Theists and head of the Protestant Church of England Elizabeth II by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories; Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith are going to heaven: your left-footer 'God' agrees - if he thinks Donald Fart the eternal sinner is a credible 'president' - don't bother him about it. [/Romans 13:1-5]

old comment by Jacob Harrison

@Chloe

I think the two lines joined together when Henry VII married his wife so your point is moot.

But Richard III seized the throne in 1483 because evidence was found that Edward IV’s marriage with Elizabeth Woodville was invalid because Edward had a precontract with Eleanor Butler. That made Edward V and all of their children illegitimate including Elizabeth of York who married Henry VII.

That means that Richard III was England’s last true King and all the monarchs after his death in the Battle of Bosworth Fields are from an illegitimate line. The true Yorkist heir is the direct descendant of Richard III’s eldest sister Anne of York which is Filmer Courtenay William Honywood.

old comment by Jacob Harrison

The vacation isn’t the main point of the analogy. What happened while you were on vacation in the hypothetical scenerio is the main point.

And you are getting confused. I am on the Yorkist side not the Lancasterians. The Lancasterians won the war and then Henry VII of the Lancasterian Side married Elizabeth of York side to secure his claim and supposedly merge the two lines though I explained why Elizabeth of York is illegitimate.

God did not interfere in the War of the Roses, but he definitely now wishes that the Yorkists won, because the Lancasterian victory allowed Henry VIII to become King and commit apostasy and have the English church break away from the Catholic Church.

old comment by Jacob Harrison

@Dizzy Dream

Has it occurred to you that the true heir being restored to the throne will solve England’s problems and bring a golden age of prosperity? The true heir will actually rule England not just reign and use his powers for the greater good of the country.

The problems are due to the fact that Brexit hasn’t been fully implemented. Theresa May broke her promises for Brexit and signed a betrayal agreement with the EU that will make Britain be in Brexit in Name only. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/25/mays-betrayal-agreement-signed-britain-on-the-road-to-brexit-in-name-only/amp/

This caused an attempted vote of no confidence against her which unfortunetely failed.

England is still not economically independent of the corrupt EU and is still subject to the burdensome EU regulations.

Under the rightful King, England will be fully economically independent with economic protectionism as well to protect English industries and jobs. Wages will increase and homelessness will decrease.

@K
There is good evidence of the conspiracy to cover up the information of Edward IV’s precontract. Henry VII ordered the Titilius Regius destroyed and only one copy of it survived. Then Thomas More wrote a bunch of propaganda against Richard III. Shakespeare then wrote a play where he was a hunchbacked murderous villain.(His skeloten revealed that his only deformity was that one shoulder was slightly higher than the other. He was actually overall handsome looking.)

old comment by Talmyr

Primogeniture was the law for most of the last millennium, so it's not unnatural to look to a male line. Elizabeth II wouldn't have been Queen had she had a younger brother, although this has finally been changed for the 21st Century.

We really really don't care who was the real king during the War of the Roses, and nor would we worry that we have an 'illegitamate' queen because of that. We'd be far more likely to think about the Glorious Revolution and the rebellions that followed, and whether Bonnie Prince Charlie should have been king. Yet we have the line we have an we are generally very happy with them. Elizabeth is very popular, as are her grandsons. So as long as we keep the monarchy, we are happy with them.

old comment by Jacob Harrison

There is good evidence of the precontract that makes it very likely. The problem is that there is not direct proof, at least not yet.

https://mattlewisauthor.wordpress.com/tag/philip-de-commines/

@Talmyr

Why don’t you care that the Queen is from an illegitimate line? The rules of monarchy in Western Society is that bastards cannot inherit the throne. How are you not upset that the Windsors think that they are entitled to royal titles and wealth that does not rightfully belong to them.

And the Yorkists, like most European monarchies believed in a system of primogeniture where a female can inherit the throne in the absence of brothers. The Yorkist line therefore went through a female line descended from the daughter of Lionel Duke of Clarence.

The Lancastrians believed in Salic law which barred women from the throne. The usurper Henry IV claimed the throne through a male line.

While women can inherit the throne today, Queen Elizabeth is still descended from the Lancasterian Line through Henry VII and an illegitimate line through Elizabeth of York.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Why don’t you care that the Queen is from an illegitimate line?

Because we, especially speaking as a citizen of Britain who wants the House of Windsor: because as far as we're concerned they are legitimate: and your 'opinion' to the contrary not allowed - and you don't have the right to think about ordering others about what you think they should or shouldn't have, least of all think you have the right to impose your will on anyone else - can. And it pisses you off. Good.

And because an Attention Whore whose creepy second sockpuppet account on the Forums has just been permab& doesn't have the right to have whater it wants.

...otherwise, Elizabeth II has more than every right to be Empress of the US: and you don't have the right to think of disagreeing about what I want.

You know what you'll be admitting if you say anying other than 'Yes, I want Empress Elizabeth vi Britannia to have absolute rule over my country: the US'. Everyone else would simply reply 'Oh, that'll never happen': but I will infiltrate your country and impose my will on your citizens: and they are forced to do whatever I say. What say you, Jerkob: an unrealistic 'wish', a pie-in-the-sky pipe dream...?!

And give us one good reason why you shouldn't receive the refreshing taste of Mjolnir again, Jerkob the Attention Whoring Brenda Leyland-esque - and proven - troll...?!

old comment by Jacob Harrison

But the monarchy in England has always been a hereditary monarchy not an elective monarchy so primogeniture and legitimacy determine the right of inheritance. So by the laws of primogeniture and legitimacy, the true heir is Filmer Courtenay William Honywood.

Your argument is absurd. Elizabeth has no right to rule America because

1. America is a Republic. Under the Constitution, nobody can inherit the US government. That is determined by elections.

2. Under American laws, you have to be a US citizen to be part of the government.

You should not ban me because

1. Someday I might convince you that restoring the true heir is the solution to solving England’s problems.

2. Someday I might show evidence that proves that Catholicism is true. Banning me will prevent me from giving you information that can save your souls.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

But the monarchy in Britain is what we say it is, not some... thing that isn't a citizen of Britain that doesn't even have the right to so much as think of having an opinion on the matter. Otherwise we in Britain can do whatever we like to support the 'Deep State' in the US - now with a Democrat-owned Congress: thus it owns the thing in the White House - and deny it of it's 'Hero'. PROTIP: Via Pelosi & Schumer, there are now no brakes on the Mueller train; it can't happen? Remember Watergate & a re-elected Repubican president with a massive landslide: and think again.

Mueller
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Seems I'm getting what I want: the political destruction of some... thing's Zero... er, I mean 'Hero'. In the same way 'Brexit' - and UKRAP & Theresa May Not's Conservatives - is dying: exactly what I want. Good.

The only way it can have an 'opinion' on the monarchy of my country is to renounce it's citizenship of the country it currently resides in, move to Britain and claim citizenship here. Otherwise I can have more than just an opinion on it's 'Zero's - Donald Fart's - political annihilation.

All of my energy to Nancy & Chuck. And it's working better than what some... thing 'wants'.

And evading bans - as it has been doing so on the Forums via previously-set up sockpuppet accounts in case it's own-named one gets b&hammered by Sigmaleph (and was) - is the reason why some... thing has no right to be here.

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@Pharaoh Bastethotep

Thank you. b^_^d

The true heir will actually rule England not just reign and use his powers for the greater good of the country

>It worships the Galactic Empire & First Order in "Star Wars"

>The reason for the English Civil War: which effectively started in my locale, Hull

>The reason for it's own name-account in the Forums Mjolnired by Sigmaleph: Evidence which proves what it actually is: a [I]Nazi[/I]. And of the nastiest sort of [I]anti[/I]-Democracy - and therefore [I]Freedom[/I] - kind.

@Tolpuddle Martyr

Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit

Let me join you in that sentiment, Pharaoh:

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Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs! [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]

old comment by Jacob Harrison

You arrive home and see that other people are living in your house.

“Get off my property!” you shout.

And then one of them says “Hey, you cannot oppose us for taking your property. After all, you think it is fine that the monarchs of Britain stole England from it’s true monarchs. You clearly don’t think that property rights matter.”

“You are breaking the law. If you don’t get off I will call the police.”

“We’ve got guns. We ain’t scared of no cops. And the law does not matter because legitimate authority does not matter. After all, the monarchs of Britain usurped the legitimate authority of England’s rightful monarchs and your fine with that. Now we are the authority on this property and we will make you our slave.”

And that is why it is important that you support the cause to put England’s legitimate monarch on the throne if you believe that property rights and legitimate authority matter.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

You arrive home and see that other people are living in your house.
“Get off my property!” you shout

The irony clearly lost on some... thing not welcome on the HTML property it was told to leave nary 48 hours ago via Pharaoh Bastethotep*.

And that's why the House of Windsor is welcome here in Britain. Because it's important that the cause of removing the troll Jerkob from FSTDT is because the property that is the WWW - HTML - invented by fellow Brit Sir Tim Berners-Lee is a legitimate matter.

Others have the right to be on FSTDT because they're not trolls. If it disagrees because it says it's 'Entitled' to do so, then it has no right to think it has the right to so much as an 'Opinion' on a matter in a country - a property - it has less right to so much as step one foot on: because it's not entitled to do so.

...unless it renounces it's citizenship of the US, moves to Britain and claims citizenship there.

Also:

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Don't drink the bong water that is your 'pipe dreams', kiddo. [/"London Has Fallen"]

All of my energy to Nancy & Chuck: and I'm more-than entitled to do so, stepping on some... thing's 'property' via the 'Deep State', to the end of destroying some... thing's 'Hero'; Democrats taking possession of Congress ensuring there's no brakes on the Mueller train. And Theresa May Not's govt. & 'Brexit' dying in just 48 hours from now. Meanwhile, Elizabeth II still constitutional monarch of my property: UK.

Between yours truly & Jerkob, who's getting exactly what they want? Gee, that one's a toughie for some... thing. [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]

*- Certainly from the Forums via Sigmaleph. And was reduced to trespassing there again via two sockpuppet accounts it had created way in advance as a contingency in case it was Mjolnired from there.

Makes one wonder how many other forums/boards it's done the same - spew this retarded BS, then b& from such - beforehand, eh Pharaoh? An idea for shy: make it so that only registered people can post here.

Proven troll - and left-footer - Brenda Leyland thought she was 'Entitled'.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

'Shawn Harvey Jackson' almost immediately after Jerkob was b& by Sigmaleph.

'Creeper in the Night' almost immediately after 'Shawn Harvey Jackson' was b& by Sigmaleph.

...then after Creepy was b& by Sigmaleph, 'AliceV' almost immediately appears as a new member of the Forums. And - I shit ye not, comrades - claims to be a woman who is Jerkob's 'fiance' and says the same things Jerkob does: and making the same demands.

As in this guise - and it's so fucking obvious that Stevie Wonder can see it; the same IP address there and all, as pointed out in it's previous infections after it's b& as Jerkob - it has a presence there: until it gets the Mjolnir treatment for a fourth time, why would it need to make demands: in the form of a 'Deal' here?

Unless it's afraid of being b& from there: for a fourth time.

...but then all it would have to do to assuage it's mentally handicap-based obsessional need to Attention Whore on the Forums is just create a new sockpuppet account there. It's done so three times before, and it's not as if it would make it so fucking obvious to everyone there that it's Jerkob the Obsessed: because of couuuuuuurse everyone there thinks that 'AliceV' isn't Jerkob, amirite guys?! [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]

It's worse-than pathetic now. It thinks it has the right to make demands? Be in a position to make them? Make 'Deals'? A 'deal' it thinks is credible? Just ask Theresa May Not on Monday: when she's forced to give Parliament her 'Plan B' on that which the EU already refused before a vote which blew 'Brexit' out of the water a few days ago.

Someone doesn't have a 'Deal'. And Theresa May Not - like Thatcher (*spit*) in 1990 - will be permab& from No. 10.

So some... thing had better pray that their third sockpuppet account on the Forums isn't Mjolnired by Sigmaleph. Or it can grow up, stop thinking the way it does, and start being a normal, sane person.

Would a normal, sane person be reduced to making sockpuppet accounts: certainly reduced to making 'Deals' elsewhere because it's afraid of losing another sockpuppet account? Because I've never needed to sink so low as to behaving in such a way as some... thing has as evidenced here & on the Forums. But then, I've never been an obsessed, Brenda Leyland-esque-entitled troll like that which infected FSTDT & the Forums. C'mon, Jerkob, answer that one.

Enquiring minds need to know.

...and no, 'Shawn Harvey Jackson', 'Creeper in the Night' & 'AliceV' aren't me' not allowed, Jerkob. You don't have the right to deny the proven fact that they ARE.

Also the fact you're an obsessional, mentally handicapped - instead of being a normal, sane human being - entitled Brenda Leyland-esque troll.

Then you wonder why you're not welcome here...?! [/Matthew 10:14]

See that obsessed little Attention Whore who's also a hypocrite...?!:

You arrive home and see that other people are living in your house.
“Get off my property!” you shout.
And then one of them says “Hey, you cannot oppose us for taking your property

...that's [I]you[/I], that is!

[/History Today]

See those blasted bits that was 'Brexit' slowly sinking like Leonardo DiCaprio does at the end of "Titanic"? That's your 'Deal', that is. >:D

...but if it's so desperate to assuage it's obsessional needs, I can recommend this forum. The only one stopping it from joining that one: is it.

We're the last ones to discourage it from doing so.

old comment by Canadiest

"You arrive home and see that other people are living in your house."

You mean that one on the west hill of my kingdom we won by hook or crook but mostly conquest over 300 years ago? Wasn't a house on it then. Do you have a flag? Ours has been flying here for centuries so that's a mote point. Started a garden n all.

A couple more Therefores you mighta convinced me.

Moron. What reign takeover was destined or just? Except free people representation. And you're wrong about America, the Nobility still rules there, you're fooling yourself. Did you think it was an autonomous collective? Certainly not a democracy, that would imply equal rights and accountability. Never heard of Cattle Barons, Oil Barons or the Fresh prince of Bel Air?

And as many have stated this was an argument of the interested and invested parties long ago. You're not them so get a life

Jacob Harrison #fundie forums.fstdt.net

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