Why does Hollywood push complete lack of morals as a good thing? Call me an angry redneck or a Bible thumper if you must, but only a true fool could deny Batman Begins is a dirty liberal propaganda. The hero of the movie, Bruce Wayne, is a moral-less manwhore, who enjoys drinking, parties, and company of assorted sluts. Not to mention wasting his money on materialistic possessions, as opposed to using them to help the poor, as the Lord commands. Bruce Wayne is every bit as deplorable as Paris Hilton, yet we are asked to sympathize with this man? He is a socialite, which gets him points with the liberals that run Hollywood. Granted, he is redeemed somewhat by the fact that he is Batman, a selfless hero who protects the weak from evils of villany. However, Batman’s training comes from Ra’s Al Ghul, an anti-Christian Buddhist scum. What is the film’s message? Christians are weak, and only non-Christians can learn to become like Batman? Also, Batman takes on the shape of a demonic bat, which is unforgivable. Anybody else feels the same way?
Accept the Lord Christ as your savior my friends.
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Wow. Either Poe or an idiot.
Is it worth pointing out that Wayne's 'manwhore' persona is an act so that his dual identity is secret? And that he uses his money for protecting the weak? Or that Ra's Al Ghul is the villain?
No, it's not worth it.
So, the main problem you have with it is Batman's not a bird, then?
Yes, Bruce Wayne was fairly moralless earlier in the film, but by the end of the film that had changed. This is what we call a character arc. We can appreciate this character arc if we know morals are a good thing without having to be told. Why, exactly, do you need to be told, RYF? Or maybe it's that you feel you have a monopoly on morals and think everyone else needs to be told. Idiot.
"Not to mention wasting his money on materialistic possessions, as opposed to using them to help the poor, as the Lord commands."
So I guess RYF lives a sincere, monastic lifestyle and typed this from a library computer on the way to distribute the bulk of his paycheck to the needy then.
What a saint!
First, Bruce was never really moralless. He was lost, in pain, and weak. As such he was planning to kill someone while filled with that pain and weakness, not because he did not know what was right or wrong. In fact, in his current damaged state of mind he probably felt like he was writing a wrong and it wasn't until Katie's character came along that he was able to wake up from the fog that he had been living in. He later found his path and purpose in the world and became a strong moral character who cared for the innocent and was incapable of killing even the greatest of evils. He never enjoyed parties and the company of "assorted sluts." That was something Alfred clearly pushed on him to help him hide his identity and when he finally relented he quickly found himself in a situation where he couldn't use Alfred's rational to play that role for a moment longer.
Second, if you're going to call bats demonic and say it's unforgivable that a hero use their image to bring fear to the hearts of evil doers than you might as well also say it's unforgivable for the Church to use Gargoyle statues on their buildings to scare away demons.
Third, you write far too well to be so ignorant of very obvious plotlines. Add to that your overt username and I'm afraid I have to echo the call of Poe.
Yeah, a rich socialite not using his money to help the poor, why that's a sin! He could be a televanglist using his money to help the poor by buying political power(Pat Robertsin and Jerry Foulwell), or female whores(Jimmy Sweargert), or real expensive estate(Joyce MyHere and Billy Grabland), or staff hookers(Jimmy Bonkher). Yep us right-wing religious types really know how to give our to the right people to make sure the poor get it, RIGHT IN THE ASS!
"Call me an angry redneck or a Bible thumper if you must, but only a true fool could deny Batman Begins is a dirty liberal propaganda."
Well gee, that's not loaded at all. But according to your bible you are going to hell for calling people fools. Good job angry redneck bible thumper.
How is a rich guy who keeps a secret identity so he can fight crime "every bit as deplorable as paris hilton"?
Hilton is a waste of oxygen, Bruce Wayne (while being FICTIONAL) is doing something with his money instead of carrying around a rat with a perm and chanting "That's Hot!" like a string-pulled toy.
And someone already touched on teh bat/bird thing. Damn. I thought that was going to be mine.
Damn right! A man "who enjoys drinking, parties, and [the] company of assorted sluts" has no business becoming a costumed crime-fighting superhero. He would have fitted in better as a baptist minister or right-wing republican politician promoting "family values."
I will agree that hollywood is a cesspool but seriously, with a name like "RepentYouFools" this guy is a troll. You get no kind of religious message out of Batman.
I bet RYF has never even given to charity either.
I seriously hope this is a Poe.
It's well-written, it touches on things fundies usually shy away from (like charity), and he seems to know way too much about the film's plot, instead of just making assumptions based on previews & hearsay.
Poe. But still, in no particular order...
-The film's message was about a man who took his thirst for vengeance and channeled it into defense of those who did not have the power and capability to defend themselves from those who would do them harm.
-If you'd paid attention, the "manwhore" act is just that--an act he puts on for the benefit of those around him.
-How much of your wealth have you given away to the poor? Glass houses, stones, etc.
-Paris Hilton as Batgirl would be a great reason to boycott Hollywood, and I would stand with anyone who did.
-Demonic bat? Flying gerbils are demonic now?
" Wow...what is so demonic about bats? Poor things. :("
Well you see, fundies are a supersticious and cowardly lot..
Do you even know anything about Batman? Batman is who he truly is, a selfless man who lives and fights to protect those who can't from villainy and evil. Batman never kills. Ever. His morals won't let him (which is more than can be said for many fundies). Bruce Wayne is merely the persona he adopts to hide his true self form the evil of the world that would seek to harm the ones he loves
Okay RepentYouFools, you're a angry redneck Bible thumper.
Bats demonic? Anyone care to expand upon that for RepentYouFools?
Isn't it mainly Republican fundies who are the big supporters of debutante, oops I mean purity, balls, who are so fond of material possestions that they won't pass laws banning slave-wage labour?
Next thing they'll be trying to say that Superman didn't die for us.
Hey, I think The Zealot would be a great bat-villain. The Zealot however, unlike most bat-villains, couldn't have been created by an industrial accident as this would suggest mutation, which never happens, not even in fiction. I also think The Evolver might be a good ally for Batman. They could team up and burn some cathedrals.
When was the last time you spent 1000 dolars in helping the others?. Have you attended one of those stupid parties that the churches organise to indoctrinate people instead of helping others? Batman has nothing to render because it's a fictional character. You do, however, because you do have money.
Let me get this straight.
Bruce Wayne/Batman (fictional billionaire by day, superhero by night who protects people) = Paris Hilton (unfortunately real billionaire by day, stupid party girl by night who does nothing for people except antagonize them and distract the public from the war in Iraq.)
How does that make sense?
P.S. Redhunter for the win!
P.P.S. I like bats, too! I think they're cute too, well, the fruit bats, anyway.
Pretty sure Ra's Al Ghul isn't a Buddhist, given his enthusiasm for genocide. Of course, if he had been an Arab like the comic, this guy would've gotten even MORE embarrassingly bigoted, if that's possible.
Reality check please, Batman/Bruce Wayne is a comic book character, not a real person. Paris Hilton is in need of mental help, as are you.
Oh, One more thing I can't bring myself to leave out:
"Dunnuhnuhnuhnuhnuh BATMAN!!"
Effing Christ, wonder how they feel about The Dark Knight, then. I'm guessing something akin to the beliefs of the fundie woman I babysit for; namely that Joker is a satanic incarnation and Heath Ledger's death was a direct result of unholy intervention.
What is it about religious fatatics that leave them unable to determine the difference between fiction and reality? Oh, wait...
"as opposed to using them to help the poor, as the Lord commands"
This is funny, considering that all the fundie churches near me use the money they collect for radio ads.
"...wasting his money on materialistic possessions, as opposed to using them to help the poor, as the Lord commands."
Isn't that what most fundie preachers do?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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