Of course God works in cruel ways, only to disobediance. If you had a kid and he disobeyed your rules would you let Him go, or would you punish Him.
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I might punish the kid, but I'm fairly sure I'd give the grandkids a free pass for anything their parents did. Your God would punish the grandkids too, you say? Even unto many generations? Well, so bad for your God. I'd seek counselling, or something, abusive parent like that.
Which disobedience did the people slaughtered in Jericoh?, or the people in the flood?, I mean, it seems that some ONLY existed.
What Novum said: if you god is Omnipotent, not only must He be able to control all of our actions, but He must be able to forsee them as well. If I had a kid, and I knew that that kid had no choice but to do something bad (or if I forced my own kid to do something bad), I won't punish them for it. In the first case, it's not thier fault, and in the second, it's my fault. Thus, either your God is responsible for everyone that disobeys Him (which creates a nice paradox, as they must actually be obeying him, making it impossible to disobey and thus be punished for disobeying, meaning that God must be punishing people just because He can), or He is just as trapped by causality as the rest of us.
Either that or your version of God (the omnipotent, omnibenevolent one) doesn't exist.
Punishment doesn't have to be cruel. If you had a disobedient child, would you be cruel to him/her?
Also, if "God" cruelly punishes disobedience, why aren't atheists immediately struck with horribly painful afflictions?
Depending on the level of disobedience, the parent might choose to punish the child, but unlike God, that parent won't maim or kill the child, you sick fuck.
Of course God works in cruel ways, only to disobediance .
Not so, according to Christianity. God will punish you forever regardless of whether you were good or bad just for being a descendent of Adam and Eve, unless you have faith in Jesus. In that case, you'll be let off even if you were a total prick.
There's no rational analogy between this and punishing a disobedient child.
Aww, now you're just making me sad. Daddy god forgot I existed and hasn't punished me for becoming an atheist and disobeying his many stupid and moronic rules. *cries* All I ever wanted was attention...
Seriously, when the figment of your imagination punishes me for doing what I think is right over what a silly little book says, I'll let you know. Until then, life is good and I'm content with my choices. Which includes lying to two priests when I was taken to confession as a child as I didn't want to tell a stranger personal things about my life. Last I checked the lightning bolts still miss me so I don't think 'he' cares.
I remember priests and nuns telling me, as I was growing up, that when I hurt myself it was because God was punishing me for something I did.
As I grew older and wiser I realized they were full of shit.
And they wonder why the Catholic church is becoming more obsolete.
As to punishing my kids for something they did. There is a world of difference between disciplining a child and condemning them to eternal torture. The former teaches them to correct their behaviour, the latter is retarded and wrong.
First, as far as I know, bad stuff happening has no correlation whatsoever with obeying God.
Second, as god is (allegedly) the creator of the universe, omnipotent and omniscient, "disobedience" has to be a consecuence of his grand plan that he knew about and could have avoided. This means that it doesn't make sense to punish someone for disobeying him, or do you punish your kid when he does exactly as you tell him?
Third, what does the capitalized pronoun mean? You were talking about a kid, not God.
And finally, if you were asking a hypothetical question, where is the question mark?
yup, my little kid , who didnt know he was doing wrong, ate an orange. I cursed him with death , and tormented his wife and children before throwing them all into a lake of fire to burn for eternity.
I am a kind and loving father.
Of course I could have just forgiven him , and tried to teach him better , but thats work , and I dont waste my time on the piddling creature I myself created.
I expect my children to follow the rules. That is why my wife and I make them clear, understandable and non-contradictory.
Yes, my wife and I do punish, but our punishments are temporary, and do not involve the infliction of physical pain for even a short time, let a lone for eternity.
Because my wife and I, unlike your god, are not cruel.
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