by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying? an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice, so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.
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I think the information before this is equally important. Just to put this in context.
the question was: if without an abortion the baby and mother die, but with an abortion only the baby dies, would that not be ok? was what i was getting at.
who has more power over life, a doctor or god, who has had more time to live, the baby or the mother? who should get a chance? god should decide who lives and who dies.
by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying? an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice, so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.
So she thinks the other person is calling the baby an animal and is imagining that they are making a quick decision a bout the child's life when the point is that they will both die otherwise.
How dare she accuse the other one of treating people like animals when she would rather that both mother and child die?
an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice,
I'm not even sure what she's trying to say here. that animals can't commit suicide? That only humans can kill animals? That the killing of a human means the victim was really an animal?
She is so rabidly pro-life that she can't see the difference between a pregnancy and a pregnancy + an adult's life. What if this woman has children nitwit? You'd rather that they go on without a mother when her life couldve been saved? Maybe she is a single mother, you want child services to take off with the kids and they end up in a foster home? Why would the semi-formed glob of pre-child within her belly be worth more then the lives of all of the living members of the family?
Humans are animals. By aborting a pregnancy we are making an informed decision about the future of the mother who, since she chose to abort, is probably in circumstances that disallow her from giving the child a good start in life. This has NOTHING to do with [not]being animals, so your point is effectively moot. Yes, it is a human's choice to abort a pregnancy, and we make those choices consciously, intelligently and with regard to all parties concerned.
In other words, shut the fuck up.
So if it's my choice whether I live or die, I'm just going to go stand in traffic and choose not to die from being hit by a lorry.
I'll be a superhero! I'll go stand in the way of bullets and choose not to be killed by them!
Hey, I'm better off than that cheerleader in Heroes .
"by killing the baby"
Except that is is not a baby, it may be a blastocyst, embryo or fetus, but it is not a baby.
"you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying?"
Humans ARE animals, you dolt.
"an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies,"
Next time you're swimming with orcas or share a meal with a bear, ask yourself who has the choice of life and death.
"thats a humans choice,"
Sometimes. See above.
"so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal"
Indeed, and for the rest of his/her life s/he will BE an animal. Your discomfort with that fact does not make it any less factual.
"i think you are mistaken."
I think you're an idiot.
ye gods. You've never even left your home, have you? Get some real world experience and, until you do, shut up.
Humans are animals, and if you've ever seen the deer that stops at the side of the road, while the other one runs in front of a truck, you'd realize not all of them are quite so stupid.
Well, if I die of cancer, say, I have not many chances to have chosen my death either, am I an animal?
I hate some people :/
How someone can be so retardedly stupid is beyond me.
And yes, I love being an animal.
Oh. So those wildlife documentaries where, for instance, we see a zebra being killed by a lion it is actually being killed by....what? A human in a lion suit? A remote conrolled lion? I've actually seen it happen for real - man, that lion costume was lifelike!
Oh, and by the way, I am an animal. As are you. It saddens me to belong to the same species of anything as an idiot fundie, but I can't help it any more than the zebra can help becoming a large feline's lunch.
Wait a minute, when did humans get this choice? Very well, don't look a cosmic gift horse in the mouth... I choose not to die, ever.
If I die, you're wrong and there really is no God. If I DO live forever, then I'm God and I'm sending you to Hell for being such an idiot.
“by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal,”
Verbs.
You are INFERRING that I am saying that humans are animals… Which is my understanding. I mean, we’re not plants.
“is that what you are saying?”
We are animals, not that this fact has any impact on my support for abortion.
“ an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies,”
Um, my dad wasn’t ready to die and he died anyway, against his wishes.
What sort of power are you imagining that you have?
“thats a humans choice,”
Yes, that’s why every time I enter the hospital, they ask if i want to be resuscitated if the worst should happen.
“so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.”
I think you’re in a philosophy null zone, snapping around you like a turtle.
Confused?
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