So if there is no God, who DID create the universe then? Logic THAT
All the observed universes have God as their creator, therefore, your logic is wrong
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Since your assumptions don't rely on any sort of logic, any other logic, by default must be superior in validity to your statement. We already knew that Carico resides in another universe so that is evidence enough, I suppose, for a some sort of multiverse... however one could argue that Carico's very existence, hinged on being a completely clueless moron, completely disproves god.
When did logic become a verb?
Secondly. Oh I can't stand it anymore! Make her go away! Every time that name, enters my brain, every time I attempt to parse something that she has asserted, every time I think that there is NO fucking way she can make me mad again, she fucking does it! My brain, my humanity, what some would refer to as their soul, whatever one would like to call it, yes...it dies a bit more each time I read from her. Now it is drifting in limbo, in a sort of coma and festering with bedsores. It is as if zombies are real, and carico is the degenerative zombie infection, melting my thoughts into a gelatinous slop and allowing them to run freely through my nostrils and mouth. She is a sanity eating virus for which there is no cure, only excruciating and non-stop pain and despair. Fueled by a perceived notion of righteousness and chock full of haughtiness, she is the sum of all that is wrong with the world, the pinnacle of monstrous stupidity, and the epitome of boundless irritation.
just off the top of my head.
All the observed universes have God as their creator, therefore, your logic is wrong
Did Carico just display a sense of humor?
Carico writes ca. 30 post per day on CARM alone, all filled to the brim with fundie stupidity. Almost every one of them is worth posting here. *Yawn*
Carico must think a mythical story that might be incoherent in itself and hay little to do with reality is more fascinating than all the science and its results on the formation of the world. Besides, physics will not give an answer to who created the world, because one cannot know or it does not matter.
Um...there's more than 1 universe? The world "universe" derives from the word "universal," meaning "everything included." Therefore, since the "universe" by definition contains everything there is, how can there be more than one?
And God is not required to explain the existence of the universe. Christians that have brains know and acknowledge this. The belief that God did, in fact, create the universe is a choice, not a logical requirement.
Besides, if God is necessary to explain the existence of the universe, then the existence of the universe constitutes proof of God. God requires faith. Proof denies faith. Therefore proof of God renders the very faith in Him that God requires impossible and irrelevant. God just logic'd himself out of existence.
"So if there is no God, who DID create the universe then? Logic THAT"
Certainly, as soon as you prove that a creator was necessary. BTW, logic is not a verb.
"All the observed universes"
Which other universes have been observed?
"have God as their creator,"
Please provide credible evidence to support that assertion.
"therefore, your logic is wrong"
Your "logic" involves at least 3 false premises, therefore, YOUR "logic" is wrong.
And if a god created the universe, who says he's still here? And who says there was only one? Or that he only created one universe? Or that he has any other powers? Who says he's benevolent or omniscient? Or that he cares about humanity?
There's a good reason why few theologians have tried to use the creation argument for the last few centuries.
So if there is no God, who DID create the universe then?
I don't know, but if I ever catch the entity responsible there's gonna be some hard tusslin', I tell you that.
"In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad move." ~Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy .
Sorry, I just couldn't resist the reference.
~David D.G.
I was orignally going to post simply...
Sandman: Besides, if God is necessary to explain the existence of the universe, then the existence of the universe constitutes proof of God. God requires faith. Proof denies faith. Therefore proof of God renders the very faith in Him that God requires impossible and irrelevant. God just logic'd himself out of existence.
Sandman, you are Douglas Adams and I claim my 5UKP [1][2].
However, this thread seems to have become something of a Hitchhiker's Love-in [3], with David D.G. and Papabear's comments.
[1] See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_are_X_and_I_claim_my_five_pounds
[2] Also, what was death like?
[3] No bad thing, of course.
For the record, the Big Bang Theory does not disrpove the existence of God, it merely explains how the universe was created.
Let's say you were born in a house your father built. All your life, you've believed that your father built the house. Eventually, you study architecture and learn how houses are built. Does this mean you no longer believe your father built the house you were born in?
So if there is no Chicken, who DID create the egg then? Logic THAT!
All of the observed eggs have a Chicken as their creator, therefore, your logic is wrong.
Eris wrote:
All the observed universes? Do you mean multiverses? And if so, where are they? Do you hail from one of them? Are you some kind of robot? Do you have any special powers? If you do, what kind?
I'm hoping his powers include eyes that shoot lasers. That's always cool.
"All the observed universes have God as their creator, therefore, your logic is wrong"
sorry, you mispelled "I fail at life"
People believe in God, therefore atheists are wrong?
What created God? You might say that God's existence is infinite. Considering the idea isn't THAT far-off to you, why couldn't the universe have had an infinite existence?
Confused?
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