[On why Rogue shouldn't have taken the cure in X-Men 3]
F*uck that, she should have stayed true to herself and respect why god made her like that. She denied everything the x-men stood for. she deserves little to no respect for that.
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@notMe
Uhmmm... Wasn't there this unwritten law about not bringing physics into cartoons? What are you talking about? Science fiction has been in cartoons for decades. The difference with Marvel comics is that that they try harder (but not always) to include science fact. To sum it up, Stan Lee almost always wanted a scientific explanation or at least pseudo-scientific explanation for all the characters powers.
Amos, those are legitimate points, but I have heard that the Ultimate Universe versions of Phoenix and Juggernaut were used, not the ones from the standard marvel timeline.
Well, I railed against Rogue's choice in my own review of the film here , but not for this oddly reductive reason. Isn't that the essential conflict of the story, whether or not mutation will be accepted as "natural" by the larger community?
mad dog,
Perhaps I assumed too much. I'm not all that familiar with their Ultimate incarnations. Still, the pointless showing off of Magneto's when he lifted that bridge... just drop the damn thing on the building! Pound it into powder! That disappointing frontal assault was Bush-like military planning. It didn't do anything but provide a lame excuse to keep the movie going.
Actually, in the comics, it's said that mutants are a result of evolution, but the truth which is not commonly known among the characters is that it is actually the result of genetic tampering conducted in ancient prehistoric times by a race known as "The Celestials".
Yes, I'm a nerd.
1. Dude, it's a fuckin' movie. Calm down.
1a. I agree with this guy's critique of the Rogue-and-cure subplot, except without all the religious gibberish and over-excitedness.
2. That being said, how do you feel about gays?
Meh. From all the reviews I read, X men 3 is worse than The Collective! That's my own book. Now that's saying something! Due to everything I've read about X men 3, I'm not inclined to see it, and can't go into details about this post.
@ ssdexecutor
What does the asterisk replace in "F*uck"?
I think the asterisk is inserted to evade the moderators. They also spell poorly when cursing. (See Wolight's comment.)
The really weird thing is, in the film, the mutant cure is implicitly analogous to bullshit "cures" for homosexuality (the difference being it works, but there have been numerous other parallels between the persecution of the two groups in the movies).
Rogue could'nt touch anyone, even in the comics her powers were a curse to her. It's an ongoing theme that these powers could be a burden as well as above human abilities.
I've never heard "God made us like this" from any of them except maybe Nightcrawler who was a (not Fundie) Christian character.
No respect from someone that wanted a normal life?
@Darth Wang
"Actually, in the comics, it's said that mutants are a result of evolution, but the truth which is not commonly known among the characters is that it is actually the result of genetic tampering conducted in ancient prehistoric times by a race known as \"The Celestials\"."
The Celestials created the Eternals and the Deviants. The Kree tweeked humans into the Inhuman race. Mutants of the X-men series are born to parents who had been exposed to radiation
By the seventies the X-men had become recognized as an anology to American Racism and later to Homophobic pregudism. Because Marvel mutants are born that way and in most cases manifest their differences in puberty.
<i>I'm no expert in X-Men lore, but does the setting even have a God?</i>
Yes, the Judeo-Christian God exists in the Marvel Comics universe. He's kind of a deistic god in that He rarely intervenes in earthly affairs, though. (Plus, the Fantastic Four met Him once. He was Jack Kirby, the artist who created the FF.)
Contrast that with the DC universe God, who is more interventionist -- the character the Spectre is directly written as God's little instrument of vengeance, and it's Old Testament style vengeance, with ironic punishments thrown in for good measure.
Plus, there's Norse, Greek and other deities running around both universes. Norse more prominently at Marvel (Thor being a major character there), Greek at DC (Wonder Woman gets her powers from the Greek gods, and so does Captain Marvel.)
"F*uck that, she should have stayed true to herself and respect why god made her like that."
Ermmmmm... you do realise - if you'd actually read the "X-Men" comics - that the entire nub of the gist of the whole scenario created by Stan Lee and the Great God Jack Kirby, is all about how 'Mutants' (Prof. X's X-Men, and Magneto's 'Brotherhood') represent the next stage of human evolution .
I guess that's why Jack Kirby is acknowledged as the Great God he is, and Stan Lee is the comics creating powerhouse he is today, and you're not , moronkumquatfag5.
...and as for your daring to use a screename based on a videogame... FINISH HIM!
FLAWLESS VICTORY!
Off topic here but I gotta say this.
X-Men 3 should have been about the storyline of the Sentinels rounding up the mutants. Hell, there were plots towards it in the first two. The Pheonix storyline could have been held off.
Hopefully the new series is succesful enough to build towards it.
That was the part that irked me the most in X-Men 3, especially Storm's reaction.
Hey lady, your mutant power may be looking like Halle Berry and controlling the weather, but other mutants are not so lucky! Movie!Rogue will never be able to touch another human being, let alone have a normal relationship or anything else without the cure. So back off with your sanctimonious and judgmental crap!
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