"It's astounding, I have YET to meet a Christian fundamentalist who can grasp the concept of consent.
Murder (since so many of you also try to make this comparison) - an act of abuse. Obviously.
Theft - an act of abuse.
Homosexuality - consensual and not an act of abuse."
The thief does not agree with that...... so you are forcing your will on another. The murderer does not agree with that ..........so you are forcing your will on another.
The pedophile does not agree with that so you are forcing your will on another.
On what basis do you make those judgments of anothers action? What kind of a bigot are you?
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"On what basis do you make those judgments of anothers action? What kind of a bigot are you? "
After reading your post I have to ask, what kind of idiot are you?
So Amos doesn’t grasp the concept of consent.
The thief does not agree with that...... so you are forcing your will on another.
No, I am not forcing my will on him. Our wills just don’t match and therefore we. Don’t. Have. Consent.
Let’s try another example. Say I go to a car dealership. I find a car I am willing to pay $1000 for. If the salesman agrees with that and is willing to sell me that car for $1000, we have consent. If he isn’t willing to sell it for that amount but wants $5000 for it, our two wills don’t match and we don’t have consent.
There is no “forcing of will on one another”. Just no consent.
(If I then decide to steal the car, I am a thief, even when I leave behind an envelope with the $1000
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On what basis do you make those judgments of anothers action?
I judge them on the basis of the harm to others involved and their consent. Really, this shouldn’t be hard.
...How do you function ?
I mean, seriously, even when it is s-p-e-l-l-e-d out to them on the level of a toddler, fundies still can't grasp the concept of "informed consent".
This can't even be called "stupidity" anymore. This is just outright insanity; outright rejecting reality and logic. Proof that being a fundie is the equivalent of being mentally ill.
Josh Buggar. Also, your 'God' is a worse -than sinner, like him. We Atheists are superior to both, ergo all fundies.
We Atheists can judge.
NEXT!
Consent, idiot, means a mutual thing. If there is no mutual agreement, then there is a perpetrator and a victim. When there is a mutual agreement, then there are no victims and no perpetrators.
We make the judgment on the basis of mutual consent. If I agree that my neighbor can use my lawnmower when he needs to, he is not stealing it when he takes it.
You're the bigot, nincompoop. How can you be this stupid and remember to breathe?
Um, see? He didn't say "pedophile," he said "homosexuality." It's you idiot homophobes which keep mixing up homosexuality with pedophilia and not understanding that gay people just want to have sex with a consenting adult of their own gender.
You know, Christians could actually argue that because teh gayz are being damned to hell through their ignorant sinning, it's not INFORMED consent.
Still wrong, but at least has some veneer of sanity to it.
It's settled, then; fundamentalism rots the brain.
We should make religion a controlled substance, like heroin. It does far more damage.
Resistance to someone attempting to force their will upon you is by default not equivalent forcing your will upon another. This isn't physics; a reaction is not equivalent to the action that causes it.
Fucking hell. Do they dust the pages of Bibles with something that makes you severely retarded or something?
Having had a look through that thread I'm inclined to suggest that we chip in and get Ronald Carter a brick wall to beat his head against.
As it is I see he's up against the unholy combination of Amos Moses, WorldGoneCrazy, Oboehner and The Last Trump.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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