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Definition of God:
Intelligence behind this life, creator (of natural laws, natural world, life etc.), purpose of life, etc.
Note for especially dumb people... Since God is the creator of the natural world (time, space and matter), the question -"where did God come from"- becomes irrelevant!
What God is Not
Mythical Creature
Invisible Man
Skydaddy
Any human invented object (including but not limited to shapes, sizes, colors etc. Basically, FSM, Zeus, Pink Unicorn, Flying Teapot etc.)
Referring to God as an invisible skydaddy and thinking, that belittles his existence... is no more true than calling gravity an "invisible super power" and believing it doesn't exist
The fool says in his heart, There is no God - Psalm 14:1
1 Nothing Makes Sense Without God
That is how I am going to kick it off. Nothing makes sense without God (in other words without intelligence, purpose and meaning)... And please, spare your delusions that we can "make purpose", "Darwinism Offers Something Beautiful" etc. This is a simple, yet necessary assumption. Everything works with it, nothing works without it. We are only different from a rock by the quantity and behavior of atoms. There is no purpose, consciousness, or virtue in this life. Everything is subjective. We are a cosmic afterthought. An accident that happened by chance...
2 No absolute morality
Yup... Morality is subjective... Most common explanation is that the feeling of empathy is innate (which then makes us wonder why do we condemn Sociopaths, who biologically lack this "innate" feeling)... But again, you can spare this BS and at least be honest, there is no reason for morality. There is no foundation for morality... Rocks don't need morality, we are only different by the quantity of atoms and their behavior... So whatever we think is moral, gets to be right... Also, do not delude yourselves that you can be "descent" human beings, since decency DOES NOT exist... Simply because we make up what is descent and what is not, by consciousness that DOES NOT EVEN EXIST... Because again it is just a bunch of chemicals interacting in a specific way... (what a cursed worldview, muttered he)
3 Teleological Argument
Whether you want to gish gallop and bring "evidence" of "bad" design... or make up some other stuff... One thing is undeniable... Life is very complex. As David once put it: I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful. (Psalm 139: 14). The complexity that has been observed in the universe points to intelligence. Whether it is the feeling of balance, memory or the corneal reflex the proof is there... The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome. -John 1:5.
You can try to deny it, We can certify it!
4 The Prime Mover
Everything in this universe points to that one point where everything began (the clock turned on if you like)... Everything in this life has a cause, which in turn itself has a cause... and thus ad infinitum... There has to be a prime cause... an intelligent designer... This we know to be God
5 Fine Tuned Universe
Whether you want to invent the "multiverse" theory or "ancient astronauts", one thing is clear... The fine tuning of the world does not "go away". The ingredients necessary for life... The sources of ingredients (bananas etc.) being made up of the same DNA code (yes... DNA is an intelligent design argument, NOT one for common descent), air, ozone layer to protect us from UV lights are a clear indicators of INTELLIGENCE and not random occurrence!
As Paul once put it:
"Since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." -Romans 1:20
6 No Absolute Justice
How often have you uttered the phrase "It's not fair"? Well it is not supposed to be... Because, once again, we decide what is fair by using our consciousness (which DOES NOT EXIST to begin with)... There is no objective judge, no order, no consequences for actions... If you get away with something, (e.g Hitler, who after an exciting and popular life of 56 years, after having fulfilled life's dreams, peacefully, and with AS LITTLE PAIN AS POSSIBLE, departed!) that's it!
7 Non-Atheistic Reality
The reality, as we perceive it, literally COULD NOT BE further removed from an atheistic view... We live with purpose, sense of morality, sense of absolute justice (call it Karma or whatever). We live as intelligent beings, made in the image of God. NONE of you can tell me, that you were raised or continue to live as a random occurrence with no morality, respect or decency! So on one hand let's convince ourselves we are a meaningless afterthought. But let us live meaningful, honest, loving lives. And give our kids the same understanding!
8 Life
The very fact that life exists is a smoking gun that PROVES the existence of a designer behind it. The complexity and design is UNDENIABLE.
9 Atheist's Existence being Predictable and Compatible
The Bible is clear that atheistic, scoffers and mockers will come... It is also clear that no proof is enough for someone who WILLFULLY denies the existence of intelligence...
Here are a few verses... "you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires" -2 Peter 3:3
"For they look, but they don't really see. They hear, but they don't really listen or understand" -Matthew 13:13
"If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” Luke 16:31
10 No Good Argument for Atheism (EVER EVER!)
In the history of existence of the atheistic movement... NEVER HAS ANYONE GIVEN any reason for atheism... All the arguments center at scoffing theists... There has never been an argument for why someone should be an atheist--Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:37, 27 May 2017 (UTC)