If ID is Creation theory in drag, Evolution is naked Atheism, stripped of it’s final conclusion. The underlying force that fuels it’s propagation is the need to deny the existence of God.
We shouldn’t teach anything that can’t be proven, either by experiment, history or mathematical fact. Evolution should only be allowed in schools as Creationism is, as a special after school activity.
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Funny, I saw no problems with evolution even when I was a Christian. It was the loonies like you - not evolution - that pushed me over the edge.
Besides, evolution is proven (as much as anything can be proven) by history - look at the geological record.
These people do realize that there were atheists before the TOE was formulated, right?
Not to mention that it doesn't even deny the existence of God, just the literal interpretation of the Genesis account, but that was already proved wrong by plenty of science before Darwin was even born.
For all we know, God may have created life and then jumpstarted the evolution, as it's an efficient way for life to adapt and diversify. See, there is no need to deny the existence of any gods in order to accept evolution. Oh, and evolution has been proven, both by experiment, history and mathematical fact, dearie. Evolution is a vital part of Biology, just as the periodic table is a vital part of Chemistry. Take them out, and there is not much left. (As a matter of fact, without them, there is nothing much left of the Medical field either, we'll just have to go back to placing toads on aching heads and walking backwards round churches to cure stomach-aches.)
Creationism is only a vital part in fundamentalist Christianity and may be studied under Religion.
"We shouldn’t teach anything that can’t be proven, either by experiment, history or mathematical fact."
I agree completely. Since evolution CAN be proven in multiple different ways, then it's in.
What about the proof for creation? Since creation CANNOT be proven either by experiment, history, or mathematical fact, it's out! So now all of you creationists will stop all of your efforts to get your religion into public school science classes?
And what IS atheism "stripped of its final conclusion"?
And no, "evolution" is not a valid answer.
And no it's not "the need to deny the existence of god". Many atheists have a lack of belief in god, so why would they need to "deny the existence" of something they don't believe exists?
Do you believe in Santa Claus? If no, are you "driven by an underlying need to deny the existence of Santa Claus"?
"Evolution is naked Atheism, stripped of it’s final conclusion. The underlying force that fuels it’s propagation is the need to deny the existence of God."
Where did Darwin say this, exactly?
People accept evolution because it removes moral accountability and allows them to indulge in whatever behavior they want (drug use, racism, buttsex, social darwinism, rock music, premarital sex, gay behaviors, etc).
People accept religion because it removes moral accountability and allows them to indulge in whatever behavior they want (priests raping kids, drug use, lying for jesus, pastors having homosexual sex and other gay behaviors, sex with prostitutes, murder, etc). They can be as horrible as they want as long as they play the "get out of jail free card" of accepting jesus before they die, they will skip any eternal punishment in hell and go straight to heaven.
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
--Scott D. Weitzenhoffer
“If ID is Creation theory in drag, Evolution is naked Atheism,”
Except that you can believe in all sorts of gods and secular science at the same time. Secular != Atheist.
“stripped of it’s final conclusion.”
So, if it doesn’t have the ‘no god’ conclusion, it’s not ATHEIST.
“The underlying force that fuels it’s propagation is the need to deny the existence of God.”
No, for those who believe in God and feel that He/She/They used evolution to achieve their goals, it works out the same way.
“We shouldn’t teach anything that can’t be proven,”
A philosophy that would be limited to math classes.
“either by experiment, history or mathematical fact.”
Experiments still are not ‘proof.’ We’re theorizing WHY things work in our experiments.
And ‘history’ just means eyqwitness. That’s not how science actually works.
"Evolution should only be allowed in schools as Creationism is, as a special after school activity.”
This approach would get all of science removed to afterschool clubs.
Confused?
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