danish_abdullah80 #fundie

danish_abdullah80 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

OK, athiests, do you want proof that God exsists, here are a couple....?
here are some proof of God's exsistence:

1) All people have different finger prints, every non-related human has different fingerprints. Why? Because this is the works of God. If God didnt exsist, then there would have been people with same finger prints.

But wait, there is more.....

2) Did you know every single leaf is different? Its either different shape, different size, different color, or different inside scales. Every SINGLE leaf on a tree is different than any other leaf in the World, if God didnt exsist, then there would have been similar leaves that would be EXACTLY the same.

Now i want any athiests who can awnser these 2 proofs of the works of God to awnser this scientifically, lets see if you can.

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old comment by Horsefeathers

"OK, athiests, do you want proof that God exsists, here are a couple....?

Is this a question or a statement of fact? I'm so confused...

"1) All people have different finger prints, every non-related human has different fingerprints. Why? Because this is the works of God. If God didnt exsist, then there would have been people with same finger prints."

What new brand of stupidity is this? You may as well say water is wet, therefor god!

"But wait, there is more....."

Damn it.

"2) Did you know every single leaf is different? Its either different shape, different size, different color, or different inside scales. Every SINGLE leaf on a tree is different than any other leaf in the World, if God didnt exsist, then there would have been similar leaves that would be EXACTLY the same."

I'm not positive but this could be even more stupid than your first example.

"Now i want any athiests who can awnser these 2 proofs of the works of God to awnser this scientifically, lets see if you can."

I think I'd rather not speak to you. You might talk back or something and I don't think I should inflict such damage on my brain.

old comment by John

OK, creationists, do you want proof of evolution? Here are some proofs:

1) All people have different finger prints, every non-related human has different fingerprints. Why? Because this is the works random evolution. If God had created us, then there would have been people with same finger prints.

But wait, there is more.....

2) Did you know every single leaf is different? Its either different shape, different size, different color, or different inside scales. Every SINGLE leaf on a tree is different than any other leaf in the World. If God had created us, then there would have been similar leaves that would be EXACTLY the same.

Now I want any creationists who can answer these 2 proofs of evolution to answer this scientifically; lets see if you can.

PS, no two people have exactly the same capillaries, either. Why? Because when tissues need oxygen, they release a hormone that stimulates blood vessels to grow toward the source of the hormone. They follow a random path toward its source. That's why as a child grows, the blood vessels feeding the growing tissue follow along in a random way.

Here's a hint. Learn science first. Then criticize it.

old comment by Mike

Or they're used to grip food better. That and all people have a small but of DNA that different from everyone else. YOU FAIL.

And your point is...?

Now i want any athiests who can awnser these 2 proofs of the works of God to awnser this scientifically, lets see if you can.

You've been pwnd by logic.

old comment by Natasha

I'm trying to recall some past knowledge, it may be a little inaccurate as it has been a while... Fingerprints are formed in utero, the environment of the womb has a huge influence on development of the prints, which is why even identical twins who have the same DNA have different prints. As for the ultimate expanation, humans have fingerprints because they help us to grip stuff.

Every leaf is different because the combination of environment and genetics leads to a slightly different leaf each time. Mutations also cause slight differences. Ultimate explanation, it is an advantage for plants to have a lot of different shaped, sized coloured leaves to be able to take advantage of the differing light conditions throughout the day, season, lifetime.

old comment by Brain_In_A_Jar

I sincerely doubt the validity of these claims. What with the chaotic nature of the way they form, the odds of any one leaf or fingerprint matching any other are extremely small, but I sincerely doubt they could ever be zero. It's entirely possible there have been many cases when they have matched and nobody's ever noticed - can you even imagine how colossal a number of tests you would need to do to check every leaf in existence against every other? You could just about do it with fingerprints, but only because the number of samples is far smaller - they've only been recorded for the last century or so and generally only for criminals.

Let's look at your example of leaves - a quick google gives a figure of about 2e5 leaves for a single tree. Further googling suggests the Amazon contains the order of 100e9 trees, so that's 2e16 leaves in the Amazon alone. Multiply up by a guess of about 5 to get the overall number of trees on the planet. The number of possible matched pairs, then, is about (1e17)!, over just one generation of trees - that's a fucking big number! To assert that not even one of these pairs could be a match, without showing a single calculation, is just a little presumptuous.

Note: This is a rush calculation and could easily contain glaring errors - one should really assume that leaves from two different species of trees are vanishingly unlikely to match, for example, and adjust the calculations accordingly. One sufficiently well versed in plant genetics and leaf formation could also work out the odds of any two leaves matching from that standpoint, and compare the figure to the number of possible matches calculated above, but I lack sufficient knowledge for that one.

old comment by clockworkcanary

This should be fun...

I'm sorry but I don't follow your ass logic from:

1. We have individual differences

to...

2. God did it

to...

3. Jebus is God

I'm afraid your conclusion doesn't follow from the premise.

"But wait, there is more.....[sic]"

Goody...this should be stunning...

So let me get this straight:

1. Leaves have individual differences

therefore...

2. God did it

therefore...

3. God is Jebus

Sorry, but you shouldn't expect your "reasoning" to convince anyone of anything. You're as fuctup as a football bat.

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Two reasons why God does not exist:

1: Some people are born deformed, bodies disfigured, minds handicapped... what sort of all-loving, all-powerful Creator would do this to His Children?

2: Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. Joe McNiceguy is a good devout Christian, gives money to charity, helps out at the local homeless shelter, and has never done an bad deed in his life. Then, one day, Joe gets word that he's been laid off, later that night, his house catches fire, and his wife and kids die horribly in the flames. Joe now lives in a cardboard box under an overpass with only the pigeons to keep him company.

Compare Joe's story to that of Bill O'Vile. Bill is a proud supporter of the Neo-Nazi's, when he drives, he intentionally runs over stray dogs and cats. Last month, Bill won the lottery, he now spends his days at his Miami beachhouse, with a former model as a trophy wife.

If God does exist, he's not the kind of guy you think he is.

* Joe McNiceguy and Bill O'Vile are fictional characters, created for the purposes of example. Any resemblance to real people, living or dead is purely coincidental.

“here are some proof of God's exsistence:”

“1) All people have different finger prints, every non-related human has different fingerprints. Why? Because this is the works of God. If God didnt exsist, then there would have been people with same finger prints.”
Math is not your strong suit, is it?
Your ‘proof’ is just ‘attribution.’

“2) Did you know every single leaf is different? Its either different shape, different size, different color, or different inside scales. Every SINGLE leaf on a tree is different than any other leaf in the World, if God didnt exsist, then there would have been similar leaves that would be EXACTLY the same.”
You can prove this? Compare our trees to trees that develop in a godless universe?

“Now i want any athiests”
Not sure who you’re talking to. I am the atheist.

“who can awnser these 2 proofs of the works of God to awnser this scientifically, lets see if you can.”
Your proofs aren’t proof. You’ve done nothing to show that the conditions would actuall y be different with or without god.

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