An Atheist cannot smell, touch, taste, or see the beginning of the universe, thus they really have no idea whether a transient being exists, or not, despite all the overwhelming evidence makes the possibilty of current state of things in the universe being an "accident" or random like how If the elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different, every living thing on earth would die. Are you kidding me, you ask me to believe that something that random to have occured? Sorry but I'll keep my transient being theory, though how irrational, it is far more rational right now than anything anybody has thought of.
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This argument annoys me because it can be turned right back on the commenter. A believer cannot "smell, touch, taste, or see the beginning of the universe" either.
Raistlin you dog, I wish you would have told me I was gonna be nominated for a nomination for an award.
Im not a fundie, thats just stereotyping a person who believes in God, Its like stereotyping atheists as gay, nerdy, emo, wrist cutters who wear girl pants and listen to Enya.
SoulTaker*: "Im not a fundie, thats just stereotyping a person who believes in God, Its like stereotyping atheists as gay, nerdy, emo, wrist cutters who wear girl pants and listen to Enya."
<<< Im not a fundie, thats just stereotyping a person who believes in God >>>
SoulTaker*: "Im not a fundie, thats just stereotyping a person who believes in God, Its like stereotyping atheists as gay, nerdy, emo, wrist cutters who wear girl pants and listen to Enya."
SoulTaker (isn't that a death metal group?),
SoulTaker (isn't that a death metal group?),
I for one believe in God (or something like God), but I hardly qualify as a fundie. I see a fundie as someone who blindly follows a set out belief system without critical thinking, or questioning the merits, or validity of that system.
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"If the elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different, every living thing on earth would die"
"Transient being"? You mean they were just passing through and created the Earth (and everything on it, of course) just for sh*ts ' giggles?
That'a a new one on me ... But hilarious.
So, can you smell, touch, taste or see any gods?
If the "elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different" then a different kind of life would have evolved, stupid.
A few billion years ago a very toxic substance came along and killed off most of the existing life on Earth. That toxic substance was oxygen. The only life now existing is life that can tolerate oxygen. Reality isn't nearly as random as you think we think it is.
"you can't smell touch taste or see the beginning of the universe"
yeah that's not the only way to measure something, or to quote from the most current animated incarnation of the Avengers
Thor: Mortal technology... you would do well to trust your eyes and ears.
The "elements in our atmosphere" vary by elevation, the air is thinner with less oxygen. The humidity, water content can change in hours in much of the world.
So your "were even a few percentage points different," argument resembles the "few inches closer or further from the Sun" argument fundies whip out too much.
Were the atmosphere signifigantly different then animal life would have developed differently. We are a product of our planet, no God needed and none apparent, trancient or otherwise.
"An Atheist cannot smell, touch, taste, or see the beginning of the universe"
CERN's Large Hadron Collider. The Higgs-Boson. Atheist scientists can create it.
Even an elementary school child can replicate a rainbow easily. Rainbows don't physically exist, but we can see them; and if a mere child can create such, then...!
"I'll keep my transient being theory"
Yeah, you do that. Meanwhile...:
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...we're not holding our breaths, re. your 'God' replicating his 'Creation', even on a more modest scale.
'SoulTaker ', eh? Well, unlike your 'God', Rokku cannot be stopped. [/"Nurse Witch Komugi"] [/"Bakemonogatari"] [/"The World God Only Knows "]
Atheism doesn't need to mean naive physicalism where the only information available comes directly from the bodily senses. Science keeps developing new enhanced senses to probe reality. There also are hard sciences like physics that allow to make strong inferences like the big bang and how it happened. Also see anthropic principle. It's tentative because we cannot detect other universes and may never be able to, but there's also the hypothesis that many universes may have formed and that some happen to be able to create enough matter in a state that may eventually allow the emergence of life. Finally, your arguments really rest on the false premises on an old human tradition, before humans discovered much about the natural world. With a new revived fundamentalist tradition of maintenance of ignorance and reality denial. Many religious people and Christians have moved past that point and accept the facts of evolution, abiogenesis and of the big bang. This means that it's not even an atheist vs religious matter, except for the fact that some specific fundamentalist religious traditions are notorious for also fighting against the world and reality.
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