["IMO, a clear demonstration that advancing scientific understanding of the universe, and belief in the existence of God as the Creator of the Universe, are not only compatible, BUT VERY LIKELY THE SAME THING."]
Yes, in fact if you make two changes to Hawking's cosmos it matches Genesis quite well:
1. Make it a bounded universe (and thus by equal distribution of gravitation, spherical).
2. Place earth at the center, as God most certainly would have.
These two changes to a universe that expanded from a singularity give us D. Russell Humphreys' well thought out model, which allows distant bodies to be truly distant while still having a six day creation as measured at the center, through the gravitational dilation of time of Einstein's General Relativity.
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.
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Sure, the earth can be the center of the universe, just like any arbitrary point can be technically referred to as the "center." The truth is of course that there is no real center of the universe.
These people never get tired of their thought experments, do they. Real science, with real experments are just too hard, don't you know.
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word That sounds like something straight out of 1984 .change proven facts, they match your Biblical 'teachings'. Though this says more about the Bible than about science.
But by all means, re-write science. You're already routinely tampering with history and biographies, so why the Heck not.
You know, maybe I'm pushing the spotted balloon analogy for cosmic inflation a bit too far, but if we are actually on the outside surface (or whatever those krayzee higher-dimension geometry folks call it) of an expanding four dimensional manifold, doesn't that essentially mean that the "center" of the universe isn't actually in the universe at all? Or am I stretching the analogy too far?
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@Jeremy PC
"How can someone look upon the vastness and the grandeur of the cosmos and see themselves as the only part that really matters?"
Yeah, and if frogs had wings and could fly they wouldn't bump their ass every time they hopped! That little phrase "IF YOU MAKE CHANGES" means a miss as good as a mile, or in your case 93000000 miles!
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word makes them appear that way. Then he buries fossils to keep geologists entertained.
Anybody can invent any unprovable shit they want, which is the whole point of FSM. The only sad thing is that Humphreys, unlike Bobby Henderson, is actually serious.
Like my BiL's "argument" that went like this. "just imagine for a second that god really does exist, okay, now..."
Sure, if you change the very nature of the universe to fit your book, it will fit your book. My, but you're clever.
Yeah, but if you make two changes, I'm half tiger:
1. give me claws
2. give me a tail
Since neither of these are true, I am not a tiger. Do you see where I'm going with this, you moron?
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