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That said I would also like to clarify a few things. Yes, I did encourage Alexius to go buy a
gun and kill his crush. Yes, in fact I do admire Cho, The Columbine Duo, George Sodini and any
other individual who has found the courage to do what they did and both deliver a warning to
society and at the same time challenge our collective morality. I will neither retract,
apologize or somehow make my opinion more palatable. I have stood by my comments and I will
continue to do so. If you have a problem with that somehow ruining the forums for you, then
tough shit. I'm the owner and I say what I want whereas at a moments notice I can restrict
your right to do the same.

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old comment by 0_o

That is downright scary!
"...individual who has found the courage to do what they did and both deliver a warning to
society and at the same time challenge our collective morality"

I've never thought after a school shooting (or similar crime) that we need to start giving disturbed people what they want. Nope. Since I'm what they call... sane... it's always along the lines of "I feel sorry for the victims and their families."
Apparently Ramm here is taking out his inadequacy issues by making himself into a god-like figure of his pathetic website for 40-year old virgins.
Obviously by questioning morality, he means doing away with morals altogether to get laid. Or at least talking like he does.

old comment by emptyinside/kittycat

@Elia

Love-shy.com is 'ideally' to talk about loveshy issues, probably best explained by the wikipedia article and a book called "Shyness & Love" by Gilmartin. It's essentially about the shyness and anxiety when it comes the other gender (be it from dating, sex, or relationships)

Rammspieler is the admin (now one of the admins) and one of the founding members of the site, probably the oldest continuous member.

We have been in trouble with FSTDT before and we got shut down a few times (Terms of service violation), but now we have different hosting and free speech thing.

~ I'm not going to answer the nicer/saner thing, I don't know and I don't care - all you know about me is my posts, you're the judge.

old comment by Lucilius

@lupinella@ Hi, neighbor! Wonder what the map distribution of FSTDTers looks like. Judging from occasional comments, we do seem to have people in a lot of scary places. I came here from Kentucky myself.

A coworker and I were recently discussing why so many startling idiocies seem to come out of Florida. His theory is that Florida is, at bottom, another redneck Southern state with all the usual bizarre redneck/fundie antics - maybe not an exceptional number of them, given the population. But on top of this there's a layer of more sophisticated immigrants who notice and publicize
all the weird stuff. This was said by a native Floridian, by the way.

In keeping with that theme, we figured you could find Florida-level freakyness elsewhere, but that it passed unnoticed
most of the time. This led to a proposed new slogan for Mississippi: "Where stupid don't stand out."

old comment by LS

Wow. Another quote from LS, we must be so popular here...makes me all warm inside. How funny that a bunch of self righteous whiny brats ar criticizing the LS crowd of doing the exact same thing; bitching and complaning about others...how hilarious.

Must be nice to troll a board of frustrated shy men so you can pick out statements often made from frustration, and pass judgement on them just like the fundamentalists you all despise. I bet it feels real nice for the people here who obviously never had problems geting in relationships, to ridicule people understandably angry and frustrated by rejection...

Anyone who actually knew the Admin instaed of being a moron and taking things out of context, would know the guy likes to say stuff like this to be provocative.

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"Misogynists are made, not born. Just like bigots."

Oh, fuck you. Misogynists are just immature little brats who can't stand it because women won't fall down and worship their penises. Having a dick doesn't make you superior. Hell, judging by you and your brethren, it doesn't even make you a man. Real men don't have to control and demand. Real men don't sit around talking about raping and killing women and getting rid of women and replacing them with robots with vaginas. Real men learn how to be understanding and kind and gentle and compassionate and they learn how to take rejection gracefully and with a grain of salt. Pissant little mommy's boys go online to talk about beating up the mean girls. People here are righteously pissed off about FUCKING LOSERS like you who are out to hurt other people, either physically or psychologically or politically. You know what IS made, though? FEMINISTS. We are made from a lifetime of listening to SHITHEADS like you. So thanks, loser. Every time you run off at the mouth, another woman says, fuck this shit and shakes off the mantle of male control. Eat shit and die. In a few generations, your kind will have been educated out of existence.

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When loveshcom stopped being interested in the forum, the only way to post was to post as guest (anonymously), because of that, at the beginning of 2009 the forum was flooded by trolls that were flaming everybody and a group of posters (among them Rammspieler) asked loveshcom to take control of the forum. He agreed and the new admins banned many trolls and suppressed the guest account (that guy WALKER was posting as guest and stopped posting when the guest account was suppressed). Everybody thought that things would improve but it's the opposite that happened : a whole bunch of guys that have much more serious mental problems than love-shyness started posting in the forum and they basically killed it. Many of these guys were banned from other forums because of their ideas - FSCHMIDT was banned from at least three other forums and he was welcomed in love-shy.com. One of the moderator (empty_caldera) was encouraging the misogyny and whenever a poster that had experiences with women had good ideas,he was ridiculed by other posters and the admins by being called a mangina or a bootlicker. The forum has lost many of it's original posters (including two admins that were named in 2009) and empty_caldera is now an admin so the people that destroyed love-shy.com are basically in charge now.

old comment by Crayos.

Have the people here are as wacked as Rammspieler. The bigger problem is being OK with the killing, not Misogyny! I mean, the motives were only partly from being jilted. Let's make yet another big leap and say "boo hoo" poor females. Males were killed too. Besides, where does anyone get off telling other people what they can and cannot like? If someone wants to hate a race or gender, let them. They have a right to free thought and free speech. Just because you hate Jim Carey movies, does not mean you will kill him. People should be more worried about stopping the violence, than the dislike. You are creating more aggravation by being mind sensors.

old comment by DOS etal.

@#1154181

Yeah like you or anyone here care about the LS forum, and what it was, which was a bunch o navie unrealistic idiots setting themselves up for more disapointment. The forum changed to help people from just that. From following naive bull shit that would only lead to more dissapointment and anger. Pessemism which equals being REALISTIC, jadedness, and bitterness provides a shield from being hurt and rejection.

I was not nor am i a person there that agrees with the violence calls, however i dont think it does nay harm, because as mentioned out, no one but ramm, who was not even serious ever ACTIVELY wanted violence.

How nice that you are all so flawlwss that you never get anrgry, or generalize. If 1000 interactions with people of a certain group provide to be negative, is it not understandable that negative associations are made eith that group?

Anyways why dont you guys go find some REAL "fundies" and go whine about them. Last i checked LS wasnt forcing you to read their forums....oh wait i forgot the all mighty FSTDT crowd has been endowed by their all knowing ego's to pass judgement on all those who disagree....LMFAO.

old comment by Boy Wonder

@Rammspieler

"I say the biggest drawback of the forums would be the fact that while others truly are troubled, some of us have a dark sense of humor and we therefore like to play along with the insanity."

So let me get this straight: you'll get wrapped up in your internet tough guy persona and say all this ridiculous shooter-worshiping bullshit, but then totally back-pedal when people call you on how fucked up saying that stuff is?
I'm torn between calling you a pussy and pointing out how pathetic/rather pitiable you're being.

@DOS et al

Wait, so we're pathetic or whatever for taking shots at violent crazies in loveshy, but you coming in here to defend the site to us by way of insinuating in various ways that we don't have lives isn't?

Face it: there are people on that site that post misogynistic and violent things. And if you post stuff like that on the internet, people are going to say things. Coming in here to tell us we're being stupid for commenting on such a ridiculous post is silly and makes you seem very, very petty.

old comment by Thank you for flying Delta...

@Crayos
There is so much wrong with this statement I almost don't know where to begin...

"Have the people here are as wacked as Rammspieler. The bigger problem is being OK with the killing, not Misogyny!"

Both of these are wrong, and I believe both of these have been pointed out as such. These guys say they want to commit hate crimes against women. The misogyny leads to (at least) thoughts of violence. Seriously, replace women with Jews (or any other group). See a problem now???

"I mean, the motives were only partly from being jilted. Let's make yet another big leap and say "boo hoo" poor females. Males were killed too.""

No one said that. It's been "poor victims". Everyone here thinks it's bad to kill people, regardless of gender. However, the guys on your website were talking about killing women, so YOUR website members brought women into it.

"Besides, where does anyone get off telling other people what they can and cannot like? If someone wants to hate a race or gender, let them. They have a right to free thought and free speech. Just because you hate Jim Carey movies, does not mean you will kill him. People should be more worried about stopping the violence, than the dislike."

If you can't tell the difference between the statements 'I don't like this movie', 'I don't like this person', and 'I don't like women', there is something wrong with you. You can have an opinion about a person or movie, if you hate an entire group of people just for being in that group, you're a bigot - plain and simple.

Also we have the right to express our opinions on your websites. If you don't want people to have an opinion about something you have to say, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up. Also, if you can't adjust to society, it's not the fault of 1/2 the world. It' yours. The lowest common denominator. And yes, that goes to women that can't get dates and complain about how "guys suck." So grow the fuck up, internet tough guy.

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Since they have removed the link that I posted (it's still in the Google cache), this is what Rammspieler was saying about his life
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Over the course of the past three years I have gradually become engulfed in what I call a "female prison". That is I live with my mother, sister and grandmother, I don't have a real job and since I've never worked a real job before, even if I could go job hunting now I don't think that anybody would want me because hiring a nearly 30 year old guy who has never really held a job before would be weird to them and I really don't have any marketable skills despite wasting seven years in University and dropping out. I have no friends and I can't go out to make any because I don't have a car (by the way yes I do know how to drive and I used to own a car.) It's because of this "prison" like existence that I feel totally emasculated and at the mercy of my family's whims.

The only time where I can feel like a man is whenever I listen to my favorite German rock bands and Industrial Metal. Most of those kinds of bands make music that tends to appeal to the more primitive aspects of the mind hence why I think that the Columbine Killers were into this kind of music as well as the Chechnyan guerillas. Yeah it's pathetic. But it's the only thing besides porn that keeps me sane while I'm otherwise treated like an overgrown child.
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If a guy cannot manage his own life, how can he manage a forum ?

Alexius, it's not the job of any government to find you a girlfriend. Stop acting like a child like Rammspieler and become an adult

old comment by katie5000

@ Alexius:

Hm. Well, when you put it like that...perhaps you have a legitimate anxiety disorder. If that's the case, then I feel for you. Maybe you could try talking to a doctor honestly about your problem and trying a medication to help lessen your anxiety.

The reason I'm suggesting this is because I found myself in a similar situation as I was coming out of high school, and I ended up talking to somebody who suggested that I try taking something to help with my anxiety. So I take one pill once a day, and it has helped tremendously.

Anyway, it's up to you to ultimately decide what to do, as I don't know what your opinion is regarding psychology. I'm only offering advice based on my personal experiences, since you seem to have a similar problem.

old comment by katie5000

@ Rammspieler:

"...Plus it was his idea, not mine. I just wanted to see how far he would go with it...I say the biggest drawback of the forums would be the fact that while others truly are troubled, some of us have a dark sense of humor and we therefore like to play along with the insanity."

So you were essentially baiting a guy who, if his post on here is any indication, may have an actual problem with anxiety. And you didn't even care, and may have even thought that what you were doing was funny. How absolutely despicable. You are either an incredibly heinous type of bully, or a sociopath (or both).

For the record, a sociopath is someone who is completely devoid of a sense of "right" and "wrong". What makes this a problem is that this person literally can't understand why most other people think that certain actions ARE right or wrong, and therefore should or should not be done. In other words, these people would do what you've done in the above paragraph simply out of a sense of curiosity, not realizing or understanding that it is an incredibly cruel thing to do and that the consequences could potentially be dire (of course, those consequences would hold no meaning, either).

I wonder what would have happened if Alexius had actually killed that girl.

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There are many shyness/dating forums that already exists - Social Anxiety UK, shy united, socialphobiaworld, enotalone, love-shack. And they don't tolerate misogyny. Even a misogynist will not stay in a forum if everybody is hostile to him. The main problem in love-shy.com is that the only people that have freedom of speech are misogynists. The admins have restricted the access to a whole subforum because the misogynists where posting there (and 99% of the posting on that subforum where not misogynists). Since the misogynists are posting everywhere, it means they will have eventually to restrict access to all subforums and love-shy.com will become a completely private forum.

Rammspieler #fundie love-shy.com

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