"wait till he (Obama) sends his storm troopers after you because you claim Christ, as he will all of us. American just died tonight."
Open letter to Satan
You have gained a foothold if not a stronghold here in recent days. You have pitted brother against brother, brother against sister, sister aganist brother and so on. You have sewn division, suspicion, jealousy, rage bitterness and more, AND IT STOPS NOW. SATAN I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. YOU HAVE NO DOMINION OVER THESE BOARDS OR ANY MEMBER HERE. IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST I BIND YOU AND CAST YOU OUT OF THESE DISCUSSION FORUMS. I CAST YOU OUT IN JESUS NAME!!!
As I have already said, I have gone as far as defending you from charges of arrogance brought by others. I have explained to them that you are not aware of what you are doing and that they should cut you some slack, as we say here in the States. Unfortunately many people find that hard to do, and their only recourse is to fight fire with fire, or withdraw. You may consider that the reason many quit debating you is not because you have actually won the debate, but because they could not bear up under your (unintentionally) insulting demeanor.
As far as I can tell by scripture, science, and faith; all the physical universe can be touched by man. Here is some evidence, stars are dying, because of Adam. Before Adam sinned, there was no death. meteors crash into the earth, before Adam sinned the earth was protected. So things in space were affected by Adams sin, if not, we could go in space and stop sin. Then space would another way to perfection, instead of just Jesus.
Another reason this can't be true [that aliens exist] is that Adam had been given authority over all creation. How could God give Adam authority over other beings from another planet? He wouldn't, therefore there are no other beings. Another point would be; if there were other races of people on other planets, God would want them to know that Jesus came to earth to die for everyone, and that the gospel would need to be preached to them. Yet the Bible says preach to all the earth, not to all the planets. Again, there is noone out there, except angels and demons.
[On scientists getting annoyed from horrendously bad creationist arguments]I wouldn't read much into this, its only natural for someone who rests his/her faith in loosely held together ideals to become defensive when you come anywhere near their belief system. In Lurch's case, a theory that at its foundation, is based on circular arguments and "truths" that take more faith to accept than a belief in God.
You say 3 months ago [he was a] creationist - now evolutionist? What was he 6 months ago? Sound like he doesn't actually believe much of anything and is swayed by a convincing argument..." "Didn’t visit the site [with scientific evidence], sorry but don’t need to visit sites which will probably change again if they really changed so easy before.
I have no problem with theories, in fact, I think that SCIENCE is a powerfull tool at the disposition of mankind, of course, if used correctly to better understand our surroundings, however, i do have a problem with EVOLUTIONISTS and their MONKEY THEORIES, let me ask an EVOLUTIONIST, if mankind came from MONKEYS(PRIMATES, ECT...), then who or what created the MONKEY, and u will tell me, well PRIMODIAL SOUP, yeah and who created the PRIMODIAL SOUP, well, it was a FREAK ACCIDENT, really? A frek accident, that means that the whole UNIVERSE is a freak accident? I don't think so, that means GRAVITY is a freak accident? I don't tink so, that means, the billions of galaxies, spiral, elliptical, ect... stars, brown dwarfs, ect... are all freak accidents, I don't think so, the only FREAKS are the EVOLUTIONIST, that want to deny the truth, and that truth is ALPHA & OMEGA, the beginning and the end.......
But in response, I have a little bit of knowledge of what evolution is (the big bang is associated with that theory) and it sounds corny to me. I don't know, it just sounds like some scientists can't look Jesus in the face and say 'I don't believe in you, so I'll come up with some other way to explain things'
[Responding to allegations he wouldn't accept ANY evidence because he's already decided evolution can't be real]
This is true in a way. I am 100% convinced that Jesus Christ was real, I well take God's word over anything scientists put out. Reason being, when we're all in the after life, science well be a faded memory. Something that helped us understand, but is now useless. Why should I bother learning something that well only help on this earth? God does tell us not to focus on this world
these same beings [demons] are now [posing as extraterrestrials and] killing cattle in their lust for blood.
In the medieval times these beings came as fairies and elves. They would take traveling people into caves and prod them with magical wands............
Projilly, the people that weren't at WTC on September 11 had "Christian" written next to their description for their job application. It wasn't Godless sinners that died during Sept. 11. However, the only people that lived were the ones that extended a hand to Jesus saying 'Help me here!'
[On The Little Mermaid]
This is an aweful cartoon, with spells and evil throughout! I have let them watch it.....so I am guilty of going against my "strict side" on this.
My kids will probably never go to Disneyland. I love amusement parks, but I have a hard time with all of their cartoons having witches, and sorcery.
I believe the scientific evidence points to a young earth. I've been studying geology for nearly 20 years. At first I was an old earther and couldn't understand how anyone could say the earth was less than 10,000 years old. The longer I studied the evidence the more I was swayed over to the young earth side.
I'd be happy to discuss Gould or Dawkins with you. But first you must tackle evolution's problems with the laws of thermodynamics.....this could take you a while....
You assume I just visit creationist leaning sites? Did you bother reading my citations?
Since were trading sites, I suggest you visit www.icr.org
This problem indeed does not lie with the atheists to disprove God, because he can't be disproved by any idea you guys come up with. The proof he IS there is out there today. Take September 11. About an estimated 50,000 people work there daily. On September 11, an estimated 45,000 people were NOT there because they were sick, at a church meeting, getting doughnuts, etc., and a majority of these people were born again Christians. Coincedence?
Our life here is nothing, I would rather be bit by a rabid dog with rabies.....than to pollute my mind. My soul is at stake putting "fantasy" or "witchcraft" in my mind.....pretty soon you start heading backwards from Christ instead of forward with Him. As a Christian I will not pollute my mind and risk my soul. I know this was directed at Keren.....but I agree with her. I am not saying that if you have watched or read H[arry]P[otter] that you will go to hell, I am saying one thing leads to another and another, then pretty quick you are away from Christ.
God is our creator and He has every right to do what is best in His intentions and for our sake. Like I said He is the creator therefore we are His creations. Hence He can do whatever He wants.
Besides you have only 2 choices go to heaven or be burnt for eternity. Would you actually like the idea to be burnt 24 hours a day non stop?
[After being asked why he even thinks the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics applies to evolution at all]
As a "professed" expert on the subject of evolution I noticed that you avoided some of the finer constructs of this thread. So be it. I have neither the time or desire to jump through your hoops or to satisfy your need to regurgitate your ideological understanding (or misunderstanding) concerning the laws of themodynamics.
[On public school systems]
Through this the liberals have successfully dumbed down their constituency, but it has backfired on them. They do not know how to vote. It is too complicated for them considering the education they have received.
So in this case we let you shoot yourself in your own foot.
[Trying to reconcile 'free' will and omniscience with the finest logic available]
Juliod, think about this. If God knew that you were going to have pancakes, that means that you, on your own free will, would chose pancakes over waffles. If God knew, you would have zero chance of eating waffles, because your free will would not lead you to having waffles. Think about that.
Are you out of your mind [?] How could you say Wicca a new invented belief and perhaps a fantasy as humanely and loving? I guess you don't know that the devil is willing to do anything to make you believe that other than Christ is ok. I suppose as you are a non believer it's very common the way you think. But for Christians we have to refuse any teachings/beliefs that are not according to the Bible and Jesus.
[On gay people being able to volunteer as mentors for underprivileged children]
I do not support this. I believe it is just another tool for the gay movement to indoctrinate children. I believe they will and are trying to get complete and total acceptance for there lifestyle. This is just another way of showing kids that if they want to be gay it is OK. That it is normal behavior. First the schools, then the Boy Scouts, now Big Brothers. This is supposed to be a mentoring program. I don't think that the gay person will just mentor without trying to indoctrinate.
Personally I believe that it is very important for the gay agenda to get children indoctrinated. This way it is a way of molding an entire generation so they can mold the next and so on.
Satan will interfere to children's literature, movies and cartoons because their souls are vulnerable. The soul of a child is innocent while adults are corrupted. Innocense in a child is fragile because it has not matured, satan wants to break the innocense to corrupt it. Since satan is dirty, to him seeing something clean irritates him.
He needs to act so that he won't spend eternal hell with just a few numbers of his followers. He wants to try to get a lot of people as much as he can to hell. That is why he would do that. And he would do that by making you think that magic, fantasy, rock music, philosophy is ok. He does this through his creativity in making you think and see that the good in Harry Potter is through magic. He wants you on his side because you think what you see or believe is good. To him the more the merrier.
[On Harry Potter]
Don't think that for one minute that the devil won't try and sugar coat things. I've read all of the series, mainly because it was befor eI was saved. I didn't think anything was wrong with them, until Jesus opened up my eyes.
The devil is a liar.
Because Falwell and Robertson speak on issues Biblically, they are hate mongers???
I think you're believing the hype that surrounds these two. Hate? Nope.
While it might not seem that way to you, I believe that they do it out of love. Better to be seen as a fool for Christ than a wise man for Satan.
[Replying to 'how is only accepting your knowledge from one source having an open mind?']
Good question, Camaban, however, God is all knowing, and if he tells me about it, whats the need to have more then one source when I already have a 100% reliable source? It takes an open mind to hear God, so as I said, in that way, my mind is open.