I don't believe in evolution either, the bible makes way more sense to me. Besides, too many archeological things were found to show that science is biased beyond a doubt. Why cover up the flood? Why come up with a bs theory of evolution? To spread Atheism?
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No, Damian, I assure you - the Bible does not make sense to you.
The Bible makes sense to people like my parents, who spent their academic lives and their careers studying it, translating it from its original languages, researching it, cross-referencing, and understanding what the MEN who wrote it wanted to say, at different times, different places, in different cultural settings. To people like that, the Bible makes sense - because they view the Bible through the reality that made it what it is.
What makes sense to YOU is a handful of simple myths that someone else has told you are "true" and that you haven't had to think about. You're undereducated, you don't like to think or wonder about life's most interesting and challenging questions, and it actually SCARES you to think about that prospect. So you've chosen the warm, nurturing safety of baby's milk answers, meaning you need never wonder or ask again. You've pretty much short-circuited your own mind and imagination and sold yourself into a life of intellectual and spiritual bankruptcy. God isn't found between a pair of cardboard covers on cheap ink printed on easily torn paper.
too many archeological things were found to show that science is biased beyond a doubt.
Wha.....
Are you actually saying that finding the remains of a city that was mentioned in the Bible proves that biologists are biased?
Please, get a clue.
No one "covered up" the flood, they just realized that the flood couldn't explain what they were seeing in the geological column. Same with evolution - those who worked on the ideas started out as creationists and gradually came to realize that their observations did not fit the widely believed story.
I realize that the idea of checking your assumptions against observations is foreign to fundies, but that's what scientists do. They don't decide what to believe beforehand then look for evidence to support it.
(a) Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. It's only a problem for people who insist on a literal reading of Genesis. But so is astronomy, geology and physics, so just getting rid of evolution wouldn't help them anyway.
(b) There's no evidence of a world-wide flood. Every area has had floods at one time or another - humans tend to live near bodies of water. There's no evidence that they all happened at the same time , though.
Yeah, you got us. All evolutionary biologists have been in on this grand conspiracy to destroy Christianity because we have nothing better to do with our time. That whole story about science being dedicated to human progress and understanding? All nonsense.
I guess one of us ought to come clean about the whole thing. We had the whole world believing that there was no Easter Bunny, too. Now you know better. We've been covering it up for centuries... now it can be revealed! Peter Cottontail is real! Santa lives! The Tooth Fairy has existed all along.
We almost got rid of the whole Jehovah thing, too... but if that's not going to work, we'll have to fess up and reveal all the things we've been telling people didn't really exist.
Ya got us. Good job there, Sparky. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go gather phlogiston so that I can cook breakfast here on flat earth.
"I don't believe in evolution either, the bible makes way more sense to me."
That's sad. You're so far gone that an ancient fairy tale with NO supporting evidence makes more sense than a well-supported, scientific theory.
"Besides, too many archeological things were found to show that science is biased beyond a doubt."
Name a couple. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
"Why cover up the flood?"
Why contend that there WAS a global flood when there is no evidence for it?
"Why come up with a bs theory of evolution?"
Indeed. If the ToE WAS BS, one would have to ask that, but the ToE is not BS, creationism/ID is BS.
"To spread Atheism?"
That the presentation of scientific data sometimes helps people shake off their religious delusions is a good thing, however, scientific data and theories are not developed to spread atheism, just to spread knowledge. The atheism often follows naturally.
So you're hoping to discredit science by calling it biased, just because a hypothesis is solidified with some evidence?
Start by providing your own to prove your own claims.
... put the bible away, that IS your own claim. We mean actual evidence. you know, REAL proof.
It's funny. The "church" used to fund much of archeology, that is until they started finding evidence contrary to what they believed in. Then they all became heretics. The truth is, you don't want to know the truth, you can't handle the truth.
"I don't believe in evolution either, the bible makes way more sense to me."
IOW, science is hard, I don't understand it.
"Why cover up the flood?"
You can't cover up what doesn't exist.
"Why come up with a bs theory of evolution?"
To explain certain observations in biology. Why come up with a bs myth of creation? Because science is too hard for fundies.
I don't believe in evolution either, the bible makes way more sense to me. Massive fallacy. Learning isn't about picking the idea that sounds best to you and live by it. Can I say that I don't believe we came from tiny little sperm and egg cells that grew into full-size humans and instead stick with the "stork down the chimney" theory as it "makes more sense to me"? Ludicrous.
Rational thinking is about picking the ideas supported by evidence, and discard the rest. If an idea is tested scientifically and found false, or if it is not testable in the first place, it is to be considered worthless until proven otherwise.
Similarly, you can't just assume that the Great Flood was a real event and write off the lack of evidence as a "cover-up".
Oh, and regarding the Flood, here is one of many extensive list of problems with a Global Flood. Note that I did not write it, and that if anyone knows the name of the original author(s) so that I can give due credit, please pass it on. I feel like a thief of sorts spreading it around.
1 No one should "believe" in evolution, like all science it should be accepted based upon the evidence.
2 Examples of "archeological things" that show science is biased?
3 There was no Noahian flood so by definition it can't be covered up.
4 The theory of evolution is not bs, it is science.
5 Atheism and science are unrelated.
You're welcome to try and find a universal marker which would indicate a worldwide flood. I'll be here waiting for you if you ever find such evidence.
Of course, that would require you to go out and educate yourself in geology which, frankly, I don't see that happening any time soon.
I don't believe in evolution either, the bible makes way more sense to me.
Maybe so, but "I like this better" doesn't cut it. The Bible might be more comforting, and make you feel all special, but wanting it to be true doesn't make it so.
Besides, too many archeological things were found to show that science is biased beyond a doubt.
Name one. Are you aware that, in every single post like this that I have read, not one person who belives in the Bible has given anything more than vague assertions. It's always "they say" or "it has been proven", but there's never anything more to it. Post one tiny little shred of evidence that shows that scientists are biased against your religion, or tried to cover up the flood. You can't, because there isn't any.
The Bible is a fictional book.
Well, DUH! Thanks a lot Captain...Oh. I mean, Thanks a lot! ;)
Why is everyone covering up the giant space-lobster who lives in the shadow of the earth? Why is everyone covering up the fact that the Spanish language is really Italian? And why is everyone covering up the fact that they all owe me a hundred bills? It's obviously a mass-conspiracy to make me look crazee!!!!11!!!!
You can't cover up a flood which never happened. Of the two theories which explain the flood, both would result in the deaths of every organism on Earth. The idea the water came in on a comet is ludicrous, a comet carrying enough water to flood the entire Earth would release the power of a one exatonne nuclear bomb on impact. That would vapourise and melt most of the surface.
The idea of an ice shield covering the Earth also doesn't work, for it to last 2000 years from creation to the flood would, sunlight wouldn't reach the surface and the ice shield would melt at the equator and quickly fall apart.The ice shield would have to be kilometers thick to last 2000 years.
...the bible makes way more sense to me.
Evolution makes more sense than the bible. Think about it, global floods, men living in whales, virgins getting "mysteriously" pregnant. No thank you, I'll stick with evolution.
Besides, too many archeological things were found to show that science is biased beyond a doubt.
Show them.
Why cover up the flood?
The flood never happened. If it did we would have evidence of it, but we don't.
Why come up with a bs theory of evolution?
Why come up with the bullshite stories of the bible?
To spread Atheism?
No. Plenty of chirsitans believe in evolution.
Darwin was a christian.
Ah, again, the "Science is an Atheist conspiracy with thousands of scientists hiding the Biblical truth" SHIT.
The truth is: For hundreds of year very religious educated men have looked for Biblical evidence and come up dry. Many of these were trained archeologists who studied the geographic column extensivly and again came up dry.
But the last 50 years we've seen the new creationists process. Uneducated theologians who are lying for Jesus. From Wyatt up we hear nothing but claims of evidence with no proof of it and denial of actual science without any basis for that denial.
A few years back FoxNews got off on a slander case because a judged ruled 'a news network doesn't have to tell the truth'. Sadly that has stood as a precedent since so: We now have the History Network, Discovery and the Learning Channel running many programs PRETENDING there is Biblical evidence and treating the Bible as a varified history book.
It's fucking ridiculous and feeding this delusion fundies used to get only from their church.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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