Zealous Zeth #fundie

Zealous Zeth #fundie christianforums.com

Being catholic isn't so much about thinking yourself as doing what the Church is telling you to do.

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I fully stand for what I said.

"Except when you, Zealous, support an heretic church which is condemned by the Pope(St Pius X)" The society isn't in schism (according to the holy father) nor is it heretical, and that's more than I can say for you modernist infiltrateurs!

"affirm that prostitution and rape is ok provided that the woman is an atheist or not-traditional Christian" I never said that. The quote is fake and made up by the jew called S53. Try to click on the link.

"support Mugabe and his policies" I don't nor have I ever done that. In fact I often criticize my government (the swedish government) for supporting him and his genocide of white Rhodesians.

"So, either you're not Catholic OR you have said a blatant lie about your being Catholic." Dito. :)

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Actually, speaking as the daughter of a rabid Catholic, his statement is exactly true.

In fairness, Protestants are encouraged somewhat to form their own understanding of the Bible and their own relationship with the big JC.

For Catholics it's all about the Church. I was brought up Catholic and it's amazing to me how just how little JC was actually mentioned. I mean, he was, but kind of only in passing and only in the stories. There was no sense of knowing him or a personal relationship with him.

Funny story: bizarrely I ended up in an empty church with my F and DS aged appx 6. DS said, "What's that?" F said, "An altar."
DS: "What's an altar?"
F: "That's where the priest stands."
DS: (totally letting me down, or up, depending on your perspective) "What's a priest?"
F: "The priest is the person who intercedes between us and God."

So there you have it. Catholics aren't even able to go directly to God, it's all about the priests and the Church. It's the biggest cult racket going, and they've been doing it well for 2000 years. All by (typical of cults) totally forbidding independent thought.

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"The SSPX is NOT in communion with the Holy See."

It is in communion with Rome, as it has been declared not in schism with the Church and therefore a legal part of it:

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mershon/070410

"in case of emergency, why don't denying that you said something that, on turn, has not helped your cause?" Chatting with some random heretic in one of satans great digital strongholds isn't really what I would claim to be an emergency. I'm just telling you the truth and I do not really care if you believe me or not.

"neither Sweden has supported his policies"

Oh, yes we have, during Olof Palme. Do you speak Swedish?

"nor he has committed "genocide" on the white people. In fact, they're still alive and well." Not even "politicaly correct" media denies that he is killing the White People who built Rhodesia:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2187453.stm

"A guy who backpedalls so much and invents a S53, a Jew"

S53 is a member of the so called "christian" forums and a zionist jew who hates me. (and God) I am sure he is behind these false quotes.

His profile: http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=230222

"He has defended the "devout Catholic" Mugabe" Mugabe is a catholic, and I have never defended him, I just tried to create a discussion not filled with over-sensitive crap and general stupidity.

"with his suckish English" I have never denied that, nor do I care for your opinion, though if we shall start speaking of the way write things, I must say "suckish" is a slang often used by S53 and other jews. Are you him by any chance?

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The SSPX IS NOT IN COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH. Renew America is not a valid source. In fact, remember that Lefevbre was EXCOMMUNICATED and the four bishops he consacrated are excommunicated as well.
By the way, OLOF PALME DIED IN 1986, only six years after Mugabe was in power. Well, not bad UPDATING(because there was no genocide. Even when the veterans occupied the farms, they only killed one farmer and nothing else.In fact, the white community there, the one who hasn't emigrated, not being killed off, is still alive and well and very active). And by the way, are you admitting it, that you defended him because you wanted a serious discussion not filled with Political correctness yadda yadda?. Another inconsistency you don't bother to explain.
And if you have no proofs that that person is behind those comments, just shut up. By the way, there are no members on that forum with that name, so I have the benefit of the doubt. Besides, the only way to usurpe your profile is by hacking your computer. Well, if apart from spurious comments nothing more happens to it, please, stop looking like a full. And incidentally, how can he be so industrious as to COPY AND PASTE your disastrous English and your style. Again, go lying somewhere else and backpedall better.

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And something else, we know it's YOU because:
a)an internet account on those forum is difficult to hack. Should it have happened, you'd have experience problems in your PC by now.
b)because it matches your style 100%. The English is horrible(due to your first language, Swedish, or are you telling me that he's also a Swedish almost illiterate 15 years old brat, apart from a Jew?), it's full of falsities(like when you said tha the Opus Dei was founded on Franco's regime. Wrong, it was founded one decade before)and you have changed your mind according to your convenience. Example, for a while, he was a wild creationist. Next, somebody pinpointed that creationism was not endorsed by the Catholic Church and that he was afraid because he didn't want to go against the Church's teaching. Well, that and the fact that he got his data from a Catholic Newsletter, WHO HAPPENED NOT TO SAY THAT. It said that 21% of the European population believed in a kind of deity, not that they're creationist. From that onward, you have forgotten the topic of creationism.
Then, when defending Mugabe(whatever backpedalling you try now), you accused Pius Mgnube(Bishop of the diocesis of Harare, NAMED BY THE VATICAN), a wolf in sheep clothes, the kind of guy that the SSPX had warned against. Well, not matter how industrious the usurper is, if he's a Jew, he can't have access to data that not even mainstream Catholics have access to just to piss you off, again, imitating so incredibly well your style. Then you said, well, I tried to start an intelligent debate without PC. So you wrote it, admitting to your shame that you were a total troll, but admiting. I don't know, to my knowledge, Olof Palme died in 1986, when this guy was only six years in power and long before the disasters started. Updating is good, as well as learning how to read news. Because a couple of white farmers harrassed and eventually killed IS NOT GENOCIDE.
And last, but not least, you have told in numerous occasions that you're the way you are because you have DEBATED with hard-core traditional sedevacantists Catholics. Ergo, you are well aware of the fact that they're not currently in communion with the Holy See.
Either you're a dedicated troll(you'll spew the same stupid excuse like the one when you defended Mugabe), which is bad, or you are not very consistent with the faith you have converted too and only consider extremists positions, which is not good either. And, of course, when you make a total fun of yourself, you backpedal.

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"an internet account on those forum is difficult to hack"
No one has ever hacked my account. I never claimed that. I only stated that some of the quotes from me here are false, (the one about rape and prostitution, and the one about the protocol of the elders of zion) that I have never written such things and that I believe S53 to be the one who submitted them here on FSTDT. (this quote is a real one, however)

"You backpedall everytime you see how ridicule your statements are." No I don't. I do not care for your opinion or for any other FSTDT:ers opinion for that matter. Feel free to ridicule me as much as you want.

"The English is horrible" True, and I have never denied that. :)

"for a while, he was a wild creationist. Next, somebody pinpointed that creationism was not endorsed by the Catholic Church and that he was afraid because he didn't want to go against the Church's teaching." My opinion has never changed on this, not is the Catholic Church against it. I am 100% creationist.

"Then, when defending Mugabe(whatever backpedalling you try now), you accused Pius Mgnube(Bishop of the diocesis of Harare, NAMED BY THE VATICAN), a wolf in sheep clothes, the kind of guy that the SSPX had warned against." I highly doubt that this is true. Yet, I am not sure. Please show me where I have stated that Bishop Pius Mgnube is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

"Ergo, you are well aware of the fact that they're not currently in communion with the Holy See." Yes and I find such people since they always speak like the true religion of the Swedish Viking is (sedevacantist) Catholicism, and they judge the Pope, which is a grave sin.

"Either you're a dedicated troll" No, I am not, but I do not really care if you believe that. My world isn't ruined because of the judgement of some heathens/heretics I found on the internet.

"or you are not very consistent with the faith you have converted too and only consider extremists positions, which is not good either." You judgement means nothing to me. Of course I got my problems, but that's none of your businesses.

"And, of course, when you make a total fun of yourself, you backpedal." No, I don't. However, I am often misunderstood because English is not my native language.

Do I have the honour of speaking to the one known as Controverse or is this someone I have never seen before?

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Well, he excuses his blatant mistakes with his English being a foreign language to him but, to me, he's just backpedalling. When you say atrocities such as "Opus Dei was founded on Franco's time"(wrong, a decade earlier), "Sweden supports Mugabe"(in reference to Olof Palme, who died in 1986, long before the problems in Zimbabwe), "SSPX is in communion with the Church" and later on, talking about Sedevacantists(who are members of the society)"they don't agree with the Pope, which is a grave sin", or more recently HIS BLATANT SUPPORT TO MUGABE, the problem is not spelling, punctuation or language shift. The problem is that he's a totally misinformed. Therefore, the excuse of "I am often misunderstood because English is not my first language" doesn't hold water.
Besides, nobody can usurp your identity in a forum unless he's HACKING your account. In other words, if we go to the Forum and we click in the profile of the poster, it's he who says the nonsense. It leads to his profile, with all the content he posted. In other words, the only way for that to happen, unless he has written it himself and NOW he has retracted due to the response of the "public"(and I don't mean us FSTDTers, but the usual guys in Christian Forums(or both, who knows), is to have his account hacked. Nothing more, nothing else. If you say no, then, there is not a single possibility of somebody posting it to give you a bad name.
As well as that, there is something he has missed. No matter how industrious the person is, he can't imitate neither his style nor his ideas. Many of the ideas that he exposes later on on other posts(corroborated by him), that sometimes appear afterwards, are copycat of the supposed fake ones. Does the existing-for-the-sake-of-the argument Jew have telepathic powers or what?. Second, in both cases, the mistakes are typical of a SWEDISH SPEAKER. Bearing in mind that the supposed usurper is not Swedish, the theory crumples.
And, in any case, he has admitted to backpedalling. When confronted about the blatant fact that he defended Mugabe, he admitted that he did it in order to arise discussion and not to look pollitically correct. Go figure!
I don't know but, for a person that admits that English is not his best asset, he visits frequently English Speaking forums, bearing in mind that he's compromising, due to his desastrous knowledge of English,not only himself but the faith he supposedly defends.
Besides, he changes his name so frequently that looks suspicious. In less than two years he's been known by the names of Scarlett Crusade, Suecianus and Zealous Zeth. Why?, maybe because he has been laugh at in the forums?. Besides, the old excuse "it was not me" or "It was a joke" is typical of pompous teenagers like him, particularly in internet, where anonymity prevails, when they realise they've made ridicule. For them, they have no responsability in the things they say.
And if he doesn't care about what we think of him, why does he keep on coming here?. Nobody forces him to be ridiculed and humilliated. The same for his insistence on posting on a forum where, due to his, suposedly, misunderstanding of language, he's made fun continuously. I think that he's an attention-whore and a troll, not because he doesn't believe what he says, but because he's more interested in other people's reactions than in a serious debate. And by the way, nobody mentioned that you had problems, you have, subconciously, said that. Does it mean, you're hinting, that you converted to Catholicism due to a personal problem?, or that you have problems in your current congregation?. I insist, YOU mentioned that, not us. Nobody spoke about "personal problems".

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And BTW, if I remember well, you drop the topic of Creationism when you were told, both here and in the Christian Forums, that the Catholic Church despised creationism and was in no opposition to the theory of evolution. And when confronted with your ridiculous statement about how many creationists there were in Europe, you babbled that "I got that in a Catholic Newsletter" and "I don't want to be in disagreement with the Church". You went by the name Scarlett Crusader and, from that onwards, you never brought up the subject again. Honestly, if was one of your most pathetic performances.
Why do we say that you're an attention-whore and a troll?. Not because we feel that you're lying but because we think that you say PROVOCATIVE STATEMENTS in order to be replied rudely and have an audience.

old comment by Zealous Zeth

Wow, is this guy obsessed with me or something? Your post is scarily long. (could this be the one known as Goldenmew?)

"talking about Sedevacantists(who are members of the society)" [citation needed]

"Besides, nobody can usurp your identity in a forum unless he's HACKING your account." No, but they could very well post false quotes here without giving a real link.

"I don't know but, for a person that admits that English is not his best asset, he visits frequently English Speaking forums, bearing in mind that he's compromising, due to his desastrous knowledge of English,not only himself but the faith he supposedly defends." Like I said before, your opinion means nothing to me, and I won't take advice from some unknown heathen I found on an atheist site.

"Does the existing-for-the-sake-of-the argument Jew have telepathic powers or what?." I linked to his profile before. Do you suffer from autism?

http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=230222

"Second, in both cases, the mistakes are typical of a SWEDISH SPEAKER." So you are a swedish speaker yourself, then?

"Many of the ideas that he exposes later on on other posts(corroborated by him), that sometimes appear afterwards, are copycat of the supposed fake ones." Like where?

"Besides, he changes his name so frequently that looks suspicious. In less than two years he's been known by the names of Scarlet Crusade, Suecianus and Zealous Zeth. Why?, maybe because he has been laugh at in the forums?" I wouldn't care if people (heathen/heretical scum) where laughing at me at the forums. I changed name the first time because I didn't want people to call me Scarlet, the second time because the name (which is Latin for "Swedish") had an unfortunate ending.

"And if he doesn't care about what we think of him, why does he keep on coming here?" Because I like many of the quotes here, and I want to see if I have been quoted myself.

"Nobody forces him to be ridiculed and humilliated." You have to do better than this if you want me to go away. It's not like I'm going to take something from here personal. I wouldn't even call this ridiculation and humiliation, merely some atheist nerds with asperger's or something having fun.

"And by the way, nobody mentioned that you had problems, you have, subconciously, said that." No, but you told me that "you are not very consistent with the faith you have converted to". While I do not care for your opinion, I must admit for the sake of humility that even I have some problems.

"And BTW, if I remember well, you drop the topic of Creationism when you were told, both here and in the Christian Forums, that the Catholic Church despised creationism and was in no opposition to the theory of evolution." No, you are talking about geocentricism, an idea, which I indeed dropped.

"Why do we say that you're an attention-whore and a troll?." Oh, but feel free to say that. I couldn't care less.

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One, they give a real link(we always do). You appear in those forums and we provide a link to them and check. If you suffer from a kind of personality disorder it's not our problem. And talking about obssesion, who's coming tot constantly this website for no good reason(and showing the fact that he's not confortable because he considers himself above good or bad?, are you in a masochist group or what?). I'm not obsessed with you in the same measure you're ridiculy obsessed with this forum(or suffering from acute narcisism, God knows). If you don't care and you consider this forum atheistic and bla, bla, and ABOVE ALL, if you don't care what we say about you, why you bother so much to check if you're quoted?. Either is pride(a sin)or trolling(probably another one). And give me a break, calling everybody heathens and so on is not "liking the quotes", it's actually not being in good terms with the administration. If you come here, at least be civilised and good person. Insulting the people here is not a good start. And well, the same freedom you have to post nonsense, we have to critisise you. Freedom of speech is not freedom to be right(by the way, if you thought what you say before saying nonsense, maybe the level of laugh would decrease). But again, one moment you say you don't care what you think, the next you say that you come here to check if you have been quoted because, Heaven forbids, you are the supreme emperor of the universe and nobody can damage a bit your ego.

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"If you suffer from a kind of personality disorder it's not our problem." No I don't, but I wouldn't be surprised if you did, dear anonymous heathen. :)

Or it's just the ordinary American stupidity and over-sensitiveness.

"And talking about obssesion, who's coming tot constantly this website for no good reason" You maybe? Since posting entire essays about some random person on the internet isn't really a good reason to waste your time here.

"if you don't care what we say about you, why you bother so much to check if you're quoted?" Because I found it very interesting, it's like studying social science and atheist (aka American nerds) thought. And it becomes even more interesting when people like you write essays about me.

"Either is pride(a sin)or trolling(probably another one)" Your judgements are still of no worth, heathen. :)

"If you come here, at least be civilised and good person." This site is neither civilised nor good. It is a site made with the sole intention to mock good. It's members are evil and uncivilised atheists whom most are ugly (race-blended) Americans nerds lacking a life. And again, you can't judge what is good or not, since you are obviously lacking any moral standards.

"Insulting the people here is not a good start." It's not like fat Bob in NYC is going to cry in front of his computer and his boxes of cola just because some unknown catholic has "insulted" him on an site devoted to insulting random people. If anyone feels insulted because of my truth, it's their problem, over-sensitive people should not visit to this kind of sites.

"if you thought what you say before saying nonsense, maybe the level of laugh would decrease" I don't care for the level of laugh (from atheist scum) and I could very much say the same to you. :)

"nobody can damage a bit your ego." Not some random heathen on FSTDT. It is impossible for people like you to insult me or to mock me.

"And I forgot, since when giving a profile is a proof of anything?" That S53 does exist. You said he was "existing-for-the-sake-of-the argument Jew". Do I have to remind you that you must think before you write something, senile heathen. :P

"For being a Jew that hates you so much, he imitates your style as if he was your twin brother." It's called acting, but I won't bring it up as I expect you to know little of culture. :)

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