The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment banning same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in Minnesota in the next few days. The group announced the new amendment push at a press conference with fundamentalist religious leaders on Tuesday.
Those leaders put forward a multifaith diatribe against gay and lesbian relationships stating that should gays get the right to marry, the world would end.
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,” said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington.
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Funny, I read that, "said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious dictator of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington."
Makes more sense that way.
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
Only about 13% (maximum) of a population is usually homosexual.It really isn't possible that the whole population of a species will suddenly become homosexual.
Women do not loose the ability to have children by being homosexual you idiot. Any fertile woman can still get pregnant via sex with a man or by artifical insemination. Many homosexual couples do this today to have children.
You do not understand biology, population statistics, or probably anything else.
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
WRONG!(And hyperbole as well)
1 generation - maybe, but unless you didn't notice, most people live a bit longer than 10 years. Not to mention, most people's fertile period is between 25-40 years.
And that is ASSuming legalizing gay marriage will somehow lead to THE WHOLE WORLD turning gay overnight. In reality, between 10-15% of people are gay (I suspect that about 1/2 of those are at least bi, although I have no evidence).
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
OH NO!!! EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!
I seriously wonder if these idiots think that gay people are like zombies, if one bites you then you turn into one and go around trying to bite more people, etc.
Are we going to base all of our policies on retarded, physically impossible hypothetical situations? I mean by that logic if every baby born from today was male wouldn't that also doom the human race, and yet I don't see you thinking that being male is inherently immoral.
Someone should post this at Freep: they're paranoid of LGBT's AND Muslims. I'd be curious to see which side they'd take... although most likely they'd just spin it into one of their conspiracy theories.
And Ikram, you seem very ignorant of demographics, human sexuality, and reproduction.
Would that to ever happen, which it won't, by what mechanism would the wo- oh, right, magic. Bloody magic, again. The whole "magic isn't real" thing really is lost on these people.
@Osiris: No, but he probably thinks that being born female is immoral. Does that count?
If gays get the right to marry, then everyone will become gay? And the biological imperative will disappear? If people whose brains functioned like this were working in any other field, they'd be sectioned. But somehow they become religious leaders instead, and then suddenly their random outpourings are newsworthy.
Everyone isn't gay, however, and there's certainly no reason to believe that recognizing same sex civil marriages will turn even ONE heterosexual man or woman homosexual, let alone turn ALL heterosexual men and women homosexual.
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
And if everyone is a camel, same thing. Just as fucking likely to happen too...
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
So? Not everyone is nor will be homosexual. Also, human extinction won't mean the end of the world </nitpicking> and it would take over 10 years for all humans to die. Also, if nobody felt like reproducing people would probably start doing it as a duty or artificial insemination would skyrocket.
@ Brendan Rizzo
Headache, is that you?
Legalizing gay marriage will not magically make everyone gay.
If legalizing it would make YOU gay, that just means you're already gay. Stop projecting.
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
In a world filled with greed, war, deprivation and misery THAT is what you choose to worry about?!?
We've had registered partnerships for about then years, and look; the world hasn't ended yet, and Sweden still exists.
Why would everyone suddenly be a gay? The only difference is that when gays are accepted as equals, they can be open about their sexuality. There are just as many gays then as when they can't be open about themselves, stupid!
"The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment"
What district were they elected from?
Ikram, you do realise that when they're done with the gays, they have some "amendments" in store for you?
He's got a point. This is just like when they repealed the laws preventing mixed race couples from getting married. Y'all remember when everyone turned black, right?
"If everyone is a gay..."
If everyone was female, the human race would cease to exist in a generation. You wouldn't say the being female is evil, would you?
imam, religious director, fundamentalist religious leader, Muslim
Uh, forget I asked.
Since when did everyone become in danger of being gay?
Does this mean I am in danger of becoming straight? It would be mighty inconvenient seeing as my partner and I got married only on 29 February.
Is there some anti-straight vaccine I can get?
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
And if everyone started popping out as many babies as possible we would run out of resources and die. What was your point?
And if the next generation were entirely women, the human race would die out too! Oh wait, THAT has a statistically better chance of happening, and you're not coming down on women! Oh wait, you probably are.
You Muslim knuckledraggers are as stupid as your Christian counterparts.
Logic-challenged.
Allowing adults to marry other adults of their choosing is in no way going to lead to forcing everyone to be gay.
God damn you're too stupid to breathe my fucking air.
What is it with religious freaks and "everyone will catch teh gay " if these ammendments fail?
We've had gay marriage for ...I dunno ... at least a decade now, and apparently it has no effect on how many homosexuals there are.
It just means that the few openly gay kids at my son junior high (oops - middle school, sorry) can walk home without fear of being beaten or killed.
No-one cares here anymore. Well, no-one sane anyways.
But everyone isn't gay. Only a small percentage of the population is gay. I still don't understand how allowing these people to enter into a long term committment to each other, and extending to them the legal benefits that heterosexual couples enjoy, hurts anyone else.
Can anyone explain this to me?
The USA seriously needs to get its fucking act together. I know that not everyone - or even the majority - of people there are like this, but when governments and religious institutions are treated as more important than the rights of actual PEOPLE in a supposedly developed nation, to the point where innumerable laws are passed making it legal to discriminate against them, something has gone very wrong somewhere along the way.
"“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,” said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington."
If everyone was gay everyone would use in-vitro fertilization, but without unwanted pregnancies there wouldn't be any need to worry about overpopulation.
I'm not saying heterosexuals are destroying the world but that argument makes a lot more sense than gays destroying the world.
@ breakerslion
Funny, I read that, "said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious dictator of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington."
I'm an old car buff.
Studebaker for several years named their models, Champion, Commander, Commodore, President and Dictator. They dropped the Dictator name at the onset of WW2. I've talked to people who own that model, and they refer to them as Directors , because they don't want to say that other word {shudder}. You aren't the only person to transpose the two. It's like the fundies who write G_d because they're afraid to mention the awful name of their close, personal friend who loves them so.
And it isn't even his goddamned name.
Many states or countries have civil unions or gay marriage. They have yet to crumble. Those gays sure do take their time!
And, correct me if I'm wrong, but if everyone were gay, all that would happen is less people would have babies. There would be, of course, maternal (or paternal) people who would find surrogates and then "do it the old fashioned way." And why do these people never acknowledge the Bisexual people?!
“If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,”
IVF anyone? Oh and PS: people don't die after 10 years you fuckwad
"Those leaders put forward a multifaith diatribe against gay and lesbian relationships stating that should gays get the right to marry, the world would end. "
Does this diatribe include muslims?
*reads next sentence*
Are you aware this amendment is based on sharia?
"The Minnesota Family Council says it will introduce an amendment banning same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in Minnesota in the next few days. The group announced the new amendment push at a press conference with fundamentalist religious leaders on Tuesday."
Fundamentalist religious leaders? You don't say!
Who else would it have been?
"Those leaders put forward a multifaith diatribe against gay and lesbian relationships stating that should gays get the right to marry, the world would end."
Were they then told to shut the fuck up and get back to the Bronze Age?
"'If everyone is a gay, this world will cease to exist in 10 years,' said Ikram ul-Huq, the imam and religious director of the Muslim Community Center of Bloomington."
1: Why would everyone be gay?
2: Why would the world "cease to exist" and why would it take 10 years? Gay people can reproduce, you know. With today's technology, the pair wouldn't even have to "do it" to conceive, you jackass. Hell, they wouldn't even have to meet one another.
@Joe Mama:
This is how it works.
When gay marriage is allowed the children of that time see it and say"EEEEWWWW!! ICKY GAYS MAKING ICKY MARRIAGE!!!"
When they are older the idea of marriage will be associated with icky marriage in their minds. Not wanting to be involved in something so icky and perverted, they refuse to be married.
I swear this is what they really think. They try not to say it out loud where the heathens can hear because they know it makes their opposition to marriage look retarded but they really believe this.
"Or maybe the imam just doesn't understand that allowing something doesn't mean forcing everyone to do it. "
It's the same with christian fundies. They want to impose by force their behavior and they imagine their opponents want to do the same. Christian fundies will require everyone be christian, muslim fundies will require everyone be muslim and gay is some kind of religion that will require everyone to be gay.
Even assuming that- by some 'miracle'- legalizing same-sex marriage DID make literally every human being on the planet gay... it still wouldn't end the world. Not in 10 years, not in 100, not in 1000. The human race might end (assuming we all just forget how to perform in-utero fertilizations), but the world itself will be just fine. Arguably better, in fact.
Please explain exactly how the world would end once we allow two persons of the same sex to publicly pledge their lifelong love. Would this cause a permanent change in human estrogen and testosterone levels? Do you care to explain the mechanism of this change, and how the legal status of well, anything, really, can affect which gender anyone is attracted to?
Besides, by your reckoning, the end of the world is already overdue, since the Netherlands have legally recognized same-sex marriage in 2001 .
Gays already have the right to marry in several places, and the world hasn't ended. Also, even if everyone was gay, humans could still reproduce through artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization. There should be no way that you would be stupid or uninformed enough not to no that what you are spewing is a pack of lies.
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