The World of Harry Potter
Many Christians do not reject Harry Potter because they believe that Rowling’s character-filled Hogwarts’ School of Witchcraft is just such an imaginary place of made-up fun. Rowling herself claims that her stories are just fantasy, but extensive research by Wendell Amstutz of the National Community Resource Center in Rochester, MN has demonstrated the appearance of over 60 kinds of actual occult practices in the first four Potter books. Therefore, the dangerous deceit of Harry Potter lies in the fact that much of Rowling’s “imaginary" construct is based on the actual, “real world” values, beliefs and practices of the occult – specifically Wicca and Satanism. The world of Harry Potter is a false fantasy world: it is authentic occult fiction - albeit vicarious - occult experience presented as make-believe.
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"appearance of over 60 kinds of actual occult practices in the first four Potter books. Therefore, the dangerous deceit of Harry Potter lies in the fact that much of Rowling’s “imaginary" construct is based on the actual, “real world” values, beliefs and practices of the occult"
Sigh...these people will never shut up, will they?
So in other words, *you* think all of these things are real, and J. K. Rowling doesn't. Who's more involved in the occult now?
And isn't the point of fiction for it to be a "false fantasy world"? Fiction set in the 100% real world wouldn't be, well, fiction.
No, stupid. J. K. Rowling's fiction has elements of ancient myths and legends.
It's supposed to be ironic that all the mythological creatures and things that we 'Muggles' believe aren't real, actually ARE real in the magical world that Harry lives in.
The fact remains, however, that the books are nothing more than works of FICTION.
"....much of Rowling’s “imaginary" construct is based on the actual, “real world” values, beliefs and practices of the occult specifically Wicca"
As one who is Pagan and knows Wiccans, .. uhh no.
I mean, unless this guy means the sense of friendship, questioning of authority, and doing the right thing despite adversity are Pagan only beliefs. (that would be flattering but untrue) But somehow I don't think that's what he means.
Sorry but I am not going to believe some never heard of before guy at some never heard of think tank over my own eyes.
And yet no mention of Wicca or Satanism in the span of seven books.
Methinks you are full of shit, muggle.
"In the real world there are no occult practices." -- Old Viking
There are folks who do practice "occult" rituals and rites. I've known some of them personally. The $50,000 question is this: Do these occult practices have genuine occult power? Can they effect changes in external reality? To put it simply, does magic actually work? Many, may fundies believe that occult practices do indeed have power.
authentic occult fiction
Ya think?
Boring, boring, boring. And stupid, stupid, stupid.
They disregard all of the hundreds of articles that explain how the magic and spells in Harry Potter are fictional, then find one among the many others that supports their views and point their nubby, worn, wrinkled (degenerated from years of rubbing their hands together in orgasmic glee over the thought of others burning in hell) fingers at it and say, "SEE, I TOLD YOU IT WAS EEEEEE-VIIIIIIIL!"
If they'd rather believe that pseudo-latin gibberish is the way Pagan religions worship or get things done, I say let them have their delusions.
Anyone who would rather ignore the truth in favor of that which supports those delusions, deserves to wallow in them and suffer all of the anxiety, fear and self-loathing that goes along with them. They have my blessing. Enjoy.
Just don't complain when the intelligent people mock you.
Yeah right, "60 kinds of actual occult practices", yada, yada, yada. I encouraged my kid to try the spells in Harry Potter books and guess what happened..NOTHING!!! She learned a valuable lesson that all these fucking fundie idiots should learn. That fiction authors make up shit from their imagination and that includes fake magic spells!!!!!!
"Wendell Amstutz ... has demonstrated the appearance of over 60 kinds of actual occult practices in the first four Potter books."
Lemme guess:
HARRY POTTER: "I wave my wand and say 'In canem corporem transmuto!' "
READER: "Hey, that's got a nice ring to it!"
READER goes to WENDELL AMSTUTZ's house, knocks on the door, waves an old stick he found lying on the ground, and says "In canem corporem transmuto!". Then runs away giggling.
WENDELL AMSTUTZ: "Aha! That satanist just said something I read in a Harry Potter book. That means the book is documenting an actual occult practice!!"
These people would freak over Robert Jordan.
Not the best fantasy writer, but he does love to insert symbolism and references.
Yeah, sounds like something a Wendell Amstutz would do.
All that effort, for what? Poor bastard will never get those weeks back.
You people believe in fictional magic so much more than the ones who enjoy it as fiction ever will.
(They won't listen to a Jafar fan. They'd be afraid I'll turn into a giant snake.*)
*I won't. It never helps.
Harry Potter is a Christian allegory, stupid. It's basically the fight between good and evil.
The first four Potter books? What about the remaining three?
I'm forty years old, I have the maturity to decide whether Harry Potter is just fantasy or real occult, Wiccan things. And no, there aren't any real things in the Harry Potter books, it's just allegory. It IS just the age-old story of good versus evil. If you want to root for Voldemort, that's your choice. I prefer to root for the good...
I bet I know more Latin than these fourteen-year-olds at Hogwarts (I have studied Latin for two years, after all). But I have never, ever gotten any sentence in Latin to DO anything for me.
"60 kinds of actual occult practices in the first four Potter books"
Shit she researched from a very rich European collection of fables, 17th-20th century literature and modern myth. Notice I said shit, supernatural legends that can be tracked back through hundreds of years of SUPERNATURAL BULLSHIT. Hey, it may be nonsense but it's traditional nonsense, we think it's fun like Jack In The Beanstalk YOU LOT think it's real.
"Cause you're idiots.
Like any good storyteller utilizing a long history would do. Don't need it for a Fast and Furious script but should study up on the past when establishing a school as old as Hogsworth.
"...the actual, “real world” values, beliefs and practices of the occult ..."
You are confused about the meaning of words, I see. No wonder we cannot understand you.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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