I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist, but that's because guilty people are the biggest cowards of all. They think they should get away with murder. So until you know the harm of even ONE sin, then you're not qualified to judge Hitler's fate any more than a criminal defendant is qualified to judge his own guilt. Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them.
Sorry, but atheists know full well what God says about how not to go to hell. And you still spit in his face. So you're asking for it and you'll get it. So hell is indeed fair and just. Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them.
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[I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist...]
Could you please explain, in detail, how you came to this realization?
Strawman, strawman, strawman. If Hitler had not blown his own brains out, I daresay he would have been hung for his crimes, whether the the judge was an atheist or not.
Question: why does the board shit itself everytime I try to signup to the forum? Is anyone else having this problem?
Your god doesn't feed me and I don't bite. Not unless provoked, that is.
Hitler solved any kind of dilemma anyone would have had by splattering his own brains upon the wall. But, I'm not really clear as to what you're saying...you're trying to say that he would simply have been slapped on the wrist (by whom?) if he hadn't? How do you come to that conclusion?
And, it's convenient for you to come to it 60 years later when there is no way to prove anything one way or another.
"I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist...."
Carico, this may be the dumbest thing you have ever said.
[Raises Hand]
Seriously. From a purely practical standpoint, it would probably have had a better outcome had he been given the Jeff Davis treatment and left in a cell to rot out the rest of his life while the rest of the world went on around and without him.
You'd probably have less neo-Nazis today if he had spent his final days mumbling to himself and dribbling food paste on his shirt, needing orderlies to turn him from time to time to keep him from getting skin ulcers. The visceral satisfaction of watching Hitler hang honestly isn't worth the trauma of even one dumb ass skin head being deluded into thinking that Hitler was a dashing figure and being motivated to go beat up brown people.
-Frank
Oh noez! Our lack of belief in Jesus is blatant disrespect for him, and it means we are going to Hell for our inability to accept the fact that a loving god would punish good people with eternal punishment for not jumping on the Christian bandwagon. And we are not qualified to say that this is unfair, as we burn for eternity while Hitler watches from the clouds, being fed grapes by Carico.
I realize that Christians think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist and a trip to heaven, provided he repented and accepted Christ as his personal savior.
God himself is revered as a loving god despite him (according to the bible) being responsible for the deaths of more people than Hitler and his minions ever killed (take for example the flood or Sodom and Gomorrha)and who personally ordered his people to conquer other tribes and kill all without mercy, women, men, children and even the cattle.
So, who is worse, someone who worships a creature that is responsible for the worst atrocities in mankinds history (either doing it himself or ordering other people to do it) or someone who is against death penalty for someone who commited fewer atrocities?
But ys, I know the usul argument, i.e. the moral standards or mankind shouldn´t be used for god, for him it is prfectly capable to be a loving god and commit the worst atrocities at the same time.
Yeah, I don't think Hitler should have been given death, either. And I'm an atheist. Hitler sentenced a lot of people to death. Granted, if he had been sentenced to death, the reasons would arguably have been better than his reasons for sentencing the Jews and others, but as soon as you start to get into the "reasons" for taking someone's life you're already a monster.
The real question is why a Christian would think he should. You do realise that when Jesus said "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" he was telling people not to behave like that, right?
In addition, the death toll of the Holocaust was about 12 million, not 50 million. Exaggeration of evil is still lying.
Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them.
Except when the hand strikes them for random, disconnected, and arbitrary reasons. After a while, the animal either lashes out, or runs.
@Princess Rot: I'm having the same issue with the boards.
And I'm all for life imprisonment, plus psychiatric therapy. We might have learned a lot from having Hitler as a case study...
Actually God is in no position to judge man, since God is answerable to Unicron, the deity that created God. God should not bite the hand that feeds him by getting ideas above his station. He is there to serve Unicron and oversee the day to day maintenance of Earth, things such as whether service station restrooms are out of toilet paper and whether small children are wearing their winter coats when they go out to play on a snowy morning.
Oh and please Carico, do not give me your doubts about the existence of Unicron. I've heard it all from you people before. There's just as much evidence for Unicron as there is for Yahweh and yet you continue to spit in his almighty face. You will be punished for it, mark my words.
But if Hitler accepted Jesus, then he's in heaven isn't he.
@ Princess Rot
Actually, the only people who seem to defend Hitler tend to be, radically Christian, shit-kicking skinheads. Just like those who served him when alive. I think it's safe to say that, had Carico been born in Germany 1920, he would have been a "Perfected German".
Carico, if your theory is true, only Jesus and the Virgin Mary will be in Heaven, or you don't realise that, according to the Bible, WE ALL ARE SINNERS?. Not even from the Christian point of view your rant makes sense.
Oh, fuck off Carico.
Seriously, if you knew anything about relating to non-believers, you'd realise that most people (many Christians included) find the "Hitler being forgiven on his deathbed and going to heaven" scenario that Christianity appears to entail seriously troubling, to say the least.
Hey, protestants are the ones who think he's going to Heaven because he was a Christian.
Atheists are fine with the fact that he's dead and troubling us no longer.
Also, I never bit my parents, my teachers, my bosses or other superiors. I did occasionally bite government employees but never ones high enough up the ladder to determine where taxes go.
I believe that Hitler should have been roasted alive for his crimes against humanity, as well as Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin.
I am not an atheist, but I know a few who feel that way.
"I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist...."
That second word is misspelled. I think you must have meant to write, "I desperately want to pretend (and hope nobody catches me at making this blind projection)
There, I think that fixes it.
"I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist..."
No, actually... I think God should be punished just like all the other mass murderers.
"Carico, this may be the dumbest thing you have ever said."
Only until the next time they say something.
Whoever posted this, I'm ashamed of you!
...You left out the fact that she was responding to me saying that Hitler would get into Heaven, according to the Christian belief.
I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist,
Seriously? I believe you've just set up a strawman. Hitler deserved death for his crimes. I will never, ever deny that. However, eternity is not a just punishment for anyone. Perhaps if, upon entering Hell, should it exist, Hitler would then proceed to slowly die repeatedly for every soul whose blood is on his hands. When that's done, well, then he's paid adequately for his crimes. Logic, my friend, and a little thing called justice.
"Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them."
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Animals in the wild kill each other purely to eat .
Sorry, but even the Wolf - the ultimate predator in the wild - is morally superior to God. Oh, and a great advertisement for Satanism, Carico.
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